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Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - jj22 - 03-06-2019

Browns are looking to trade or even release him.

Might be a legit option given he is a prior Bengal and Brown does like to be familiar with players he brings in.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/06/report-kevin-zeitlers-name-has-been-thrown-around-in-trade-talks/


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - THE PISTONS - 03-06-2019

That would be sweet. Why would they release or trade him though. Don't they have cap space?


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - McC - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 05:43 PM)jj22 Wrote: Browns are looking to trade or even release him.

Might be a legit option given he is a prior Bengal and Brown does like to be familiar with players he brings in.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/06/report-kevin-zeitlers-name-has-been-thrown-around-in-trade-talks/

The question is, would that aspect of his personality be overruled by the bitterness of the guy going to play for the despised Browns?


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - THE PISTONS - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 05:49 PM)McC Wrote: The question is, would that aspect of his personality be overruled by the bitterness of the guy going to play for the despised Browns?

I think we'd take him back. Didn't Dansby go to the Browns? We tried to sign him and he went there. Then he came here.

This all said, I still think Zeitler would get some big offers on the market.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - jj22 - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 05:49 PM)McC Wrote: The question is, would that aspect of his personality be overruled by the bitterness of the guy going to play for the despised Browns?

True, and the feelings have to go both ways. But I don't remember Zeitler taking shots at MB after he left. He might have now that I think of it.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - McC - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 05:50 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think we'd take him back. Didn't Dansby go to the Browns? We tried to sign him and he went there. Then he came here.

This all said, I still think Zeitler would get some big offers on the market.

I don't even know how good he has been in Cleveland.  We most certainly need a RG.  But will Cleveland release him and have that much dead money?


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - MentalRage - 03-06-2019

Zeitler has been very good for the Browns. This is strictly a money move imo.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - impactplaya - 03-06-2019

the Browns clearing more cap space to acquire Odell Beckham.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Schmitbuck - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 05:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: That would be sweet. Why would they release or trade him though. Don't they have cap space?

A reason I saw on twitter was because Z was signed by the previous Browns regime and the current regime drafted a G in the 2nd round last year (Austin Corbett).

That said, I'd be happy with a reunion at the right price.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Okeana - 03-06-2019

Getting Big Z back would be good. I can't see him being upset with us he left and became the highest paid guard in the nfl.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - lone bengal - 03-06-2019

If the price was right I would be fine with the move he is still young. If they draft a tackle at 11 the O- line is looking pretty good with Glenn, Boling, Price, Zeitler , 11th pick. Sign a young lb in free agencey and you can look in the 2nd round to possibly add another LB.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - fredtoast - 03-06-2019

Proof the Bengal front office was smart to not overpay Zeitler like the Browns did.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Synric - 03-06-2019

It makes little sense for the Browns to trade or cut Kevin Zeitler at least before June...


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Older Than You Too - 03-06-2019

I hope we bring him back. We should have never let him go in the first place.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - leonardfan40 - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 07:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Proof the Bengal front office was smart to not overpay Zeitler like the Browns did.

Yeah because they bengals just kept winning without him and Whit...oh wait


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - lone bengal - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 07:37 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Yeah because they bengals just kept winning without him and Whit...oh wait

I can agree with them not wanting to play a guard that much when you have other guys like Geno and company to pay down the road., Whit’s A little different because he plays a premium position and was the leader of the team.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - SunsetBengal - 03-06-2019

According to this, the Browns would be absolute fools to release Zeitler this year.

https://overthecap.com/player/kevin-zeitler/189/

$10.7M in dead cap, just to "save" $1.7M? That's pretty obtuse, even by "old Browns" logic. If they wait to next year, they can at least save $7.6M and only eat $4.8M in dead cap.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Synric - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 07:50 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: According to this, the Browns would be absolute fools to release Zeitler this year.  

https://overthecap.com/player/kevin-zeitler/189/

$10.7M in dead cap, just to "save" $1.7M?  That's pretty obtuse, even by "old Browns" logic.  If they wait to next year, they can at least save $7.6M and only eat $4.8M in dead cap.

If they wait until June the dead cap would be 6 and they save 6.5. If they can find a trade partner in June the dead cap would be 2.4 and they save 10 before June its 7.2 dead cap 5.2 savings.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - SunsetBengal - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 07:55 PM)Synric Wrote: If they wait until June the dead cap would be 6 and they save 6.5. If they can find a trade partner in June the dead cap would be 2.4 and they save 10 before June its 7.2 dead cap 5.2 savings.

Hmm, I was unaware of those latter details.  So, if a team didn't get what they wanted in Free Agency or the Draft, they could feasibly bargain with the Browns and get a great Guard for about half price?  I say half price, as the Browns would still be on the hook for their part of his salary.


RE: Reports: Zeitler might be an option soon - Jojo the Circus Boy - 03-06-2019

(03-06-2019, 07:01 PM)lone bengal Wrote: If the price was right I would be fine with the move he is still young. If they draft a tackle at 11 the O- line is looking pretty good with Glenn, Boling, Price, Zeitler , 11th pick. Sign a young lb in free agencey and you can look in the 2nd round to possibly add another LB.

Don't get my hopes up! That would be a perfect scenario. That being said, with the amount of dead cap Zeitler carries, it only makes sense to trade him before June 1 and that only clears 5.2 million according to spotrac. Perhaps they feel Corbett can do as well as Zeitler for future cap savings? They have 77.9 million in total cap space now so I cant imagine extra cap space now is a reason to get rid of him