(12-14-2020, 03:48 AM)JWW1971 Wrote: Have to say that today for the first time in his interview after the game, Zac looked like he was done.
I've saw most of his previous interviews after games and he always still sounded like he believed he could turn this round but not today.
I honestly don't think it will be long before he is gone, I don't think he will get fired but I honestly think he will walk

(12-14-2020, 09:41 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: What you saw is a man defeated by his incompetency.
Like an exasperated parent where the 6 yr old doesnt listen to the parent, creates chaos and is regressing instead of progressing.
That is where Zac is right at this moment.
It is not pretty.

(12-14-2020, 01:46 PM)Bengalsfanz Wrote: Until this franchise takes a serious look in the right direction and follows suit with a lot of other successful franchises. Mike Brown needs to step down, Duke Tobin needs to take a hike, Katie needs to just concentrate on marketing for the team. We need a real General Manager, Team Scouts, Draft Analyst, Better Practice Field, Facilities, Strength and Conditioning Coach, Head Coach and Coordinator's. I know this asking so much. I have been a fan for over 30years. This franchise needs to get with the times and hold themselves and everyone in that building accountable for there actions. You have to spend money to make money also to bring in success. But it starts with a good foundation and principles are the building blocks for success. I know they spent a lot of money in free agency. But we have to have the ace's in places to make all of this work. This is the only way we could make a real a difference.

(12-14-2020, 01:51 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Methinks Duke Tobin is in the "untouchables" category.

(12-14-2020, 08:57 AM)Big Boss Wrote: Nobody walks away from a job that pays millions.  Not without having another job lined up with comparable pay.

He's here until his contract is up or he's fired.

(12-14-2020, 04:29 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: coach contracts are fully gaurenteed hes paid the next 2 years if hes here or not...

which is why i worry he still might be

(12-14-2020, 01:46 PM)Bengalsfanz Wrote: Until this franchise takes a serious look in the right direction and follows suit with a lot of other successful franchises. Mike Brown needs to step down, Duke Tobin needs to take a hike, Katie needs to just concentrate on marketing for the team. We need a real General Manager, Team Scouts, Draft Analyst, Better Practice Field, Facilities, Strength and Conditioning Coach, Head Coach and Coordinator's. I know this asking so much. I have been a fan for over 30years. This franchise needs to get with the times and hold themselves and everyone in that building accountable for there actions. You have to spend money to make money also to bring in success. But it starts with a good foundation and principles are the building blocks for success. I know they spent a lot of money in free agency. But we have to have the ace's in places to make all of this work. This is the only way we could make a real a difference.

(12-14-2020, 04:44 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Zac needs to resign and go back to the Southwest and
Try his luck at 6 on 6 Texas football.
Before joining the Bengals his life had been more
Successs than failures.
Grew up in a structured home. Everything handed
To him. Let's be real what adversity did he ever have
To endure in his young life pre HC of the Bengals?

Things,arent going his way now and he has no
Answer on how to overcome it.

Burrows injury exposed reality. Hes not a,NFL HC

(12-14-2020, 02:28 PM)Bengalsfanz Wrote: Still some part of the problem with getting real high quality establish coaches is because of the reputation of the franchise and the way it's run. They have built a bad product for over a decade and most people do not want to be affiliated with that. That's reason some coaches saw us as a step back in there careers or just a small minor stepping stone to get there feet wet in the NFL then move on quickly. Hints why we have so many new inexperienced faces on the coaching staff and great coordinators moved on in the past. Jack Del Rio and Mike Zimmer are just some examples. I remember when we could not get top notch free agents to come play for us until this past free agency. Zach might have been the only man willing to take the job here and wanted it. Plus it does not help when Duke Tobin is doing the interviewing or picking the coaches. Taylor probably will get another because the Brown Family does not like change and Taylor is a yes man. Which will set this franchise back another probably four years.