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Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - GMDino - 02-23-2016 I'm putting this in Smack Talk because I know the thread will deteriorate quickly.... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14828063/vontaze-burfict-cincinnati-bengals-says-change-style-play Quote:Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict told ESPN's Josina Anderson in an interview Monday that he needs to change his style of play, but he probably would not have been flagged for his hit to the head of Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown in the wild-card round if his reputation hadn't preceded him. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - McC - 02-23-2016 I hate the idea of different standards for different players--certain guys having a bullseye on their backs--it is what it is and he will have to deal with it. Sounds like he knows this and is ready to adjust. I believe in the guy. I believed in him when so many people were certain he'd never be the same after the knee and I believe he can adjust without losing his edge. If he wears the bullseye, maybe some other guys should too. Two immediately spring to mind immediately because they play like they intend to maim, which is something I don't believe Burfict does. The two guys are TJ Ward and Mike Mitchell, both of whom make Vontaze Burfict look like a choir boy. IMO, Mitchell and Ward are just flat out dangerous. Dirty doesn't begin to describe those assholes. Yet, somehow, they fly under the radar. Go figure. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - StrictlyBiz - 02-23-2016 Couple of things..... He's flat out wrong that it was his number that got him flagged on the Brown hit. I could've been been out there wearing a number -6 jersey and I would've gotten flagged for that hit. He blasted him in his head with his shoulder as he was defenseless and going across the middle. (Bengal fans, this is where you chime in and bring up Shaziers hit) Any player on any team at any time is going to draw a fine and a flag for that hit, 100% of the time. (Bengal fans, missed calls do not change facts nor do they justify actual penalties) He's right about it being a bang-bang play and that Brown was dipping his body and that's why he caught his head, but the NFL doesn't care about that and has said as much. The onus is on the defensive player to not hit him is the head or while he's defenseless regardless of what the WR does. It sucks but that's the way the NFL is calling it. EVERY team has been burned by that call at some point, you just have to deal with it. Which leads to point #2. He sounds frustrated about how to play the game. And he's right. He doesn't want to hit low so he goes higher but Brown dips and he hits his head and he draws a penalty anyway. Us Steelers fans went thru this several years ago with James Harrison almost to a tee. It is unfair to defensive players, but again it's how the league is calling it in their attempt to change the way the game is played for player safety. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - Murdock2420 - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 12:30 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Couple of things..... Actually the Shazier hit proves his point. If that was Burfict that delivered the hit Shazier did, it's 15 yards instantly. That's just the way it is with Burfict now, anything close on a bang bang play is instantly 15 yards, even when it's clean. And before all you yinzers start on about Shazier not being flagged and it wasn't a foul.... http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Nelson-hopes-to-return-as-combine-opens/3c1747a6-9293-44ba-802b-d2d0cda7a95f Scroll to the bottom and read where a former NFL player who played for both teams talks about this very topic: "He says Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier’s hit that knocked Bengals running back Giovani Bernard out of the game with a concussion in the third quarter not only should have been flagged as an illegal hit to the head, but it was more malicious than Burfict’s play. “I want to put it into context for fans,” Wilcots says, “why Vontaze Burfict plays like he plays against Pittsburgh. Because Pittsburgh has been playing that way against the Bengals forever. So unless you claim to no more about the NFL than a guy who played in the league, there is no room for argument. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - StrictlyBiz - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 01:38 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Actually the Shazier hit proves his point. If that was Burfict that delivered the hit Shazier did, it's 15 yards instantly. That's just the way it is with Burfict now, anything close on a bang bang play is instantly 15 yards, even when it's clean. Predictable response and why I wrote what I did in the parenthesis. Both times. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - McC - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 02:09 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Predictable response and why I wrote what I did in the parenthesis. Both times. Predictable or not, true is true. What the hell is a yinzer? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - Murdock2420 - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 02:09 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Predictable response and why I wrote what I did in the parenthesis. Both times. You wrote it in parenthesis to try and avoid the discussion, but it is absolute truth Burfict gets flagged for every fringe penalty due to his rep, deflect all you want. Are you really too much of a blind homer to admit that if Burfict makes the same hit as Shazier he gets 15? P.S. once again, a pro player a guy who forgot more about football then you'll ever know said Shazier's hit was worse.....so please argue this more. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-23-2016 Underpants! RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 03:00 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: 1.)You wrote it in parenthesis to try and avoid the discussion, but it is absolute truth Burfict gets flagged for every fringe penalty due to his rep, deflect all you want. 1.)Yes. 2.)yes RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - Griever - 02-23-2016 id feel bad for the dude if this was his first rodeo, but he has what, 14 personal fouls in the short time he's been in, and was the exact same way in college? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 03:23 PM)Griever Wrote: id feel bad for the dude if this was his first rodeo, but he has what, 14 personal fouls in the short time he's been in, and was the exact same way in college? Poor Vontaze not getting empathy from you. How will he sleep at night? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - 6andcounting - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 03:29 PM)The Real Deal Wrote: Poor Vontaze not getting empathy from you. How will he sleep at night? I'm guessing it's the CTE that disrupts his sleep, not lack of empathy. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 07:13 PM)6andcounting Wrote: I'm guessing it's the CTE that disrupts his sleep, not lack of empathy. I see 3 players that have a better chance of that being their problem than burfict. Because hits on the shoulder pads don't really cause CTE. My guess is the nfl rape job is what keeps him awake, but who's to say? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - 6andcounting - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 07:26 PM)The Real Deal Wrote:CTE doesn't develop after one incident. It's the result of repeated head injuries. Not going further back than college, Burfict has about 8 years of head bashing under his belt. And how many diagnosed head and neck injuries? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 07:45 PM)6andcounting Wrote: CTE doesn't develop after one incident. It's the result of repeated head injuries. Not going further back than college, Burfict has about 8 years of head bashing under his belt. And how many diagnosed head and neck injuries? No? "Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a form of tauopathy, is a progressive degenerative diseasefound in people who have suffered A severe blow to the head." But let's face it, he sleeps fine. I mean, have you seen his girlfriend? RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - BigPapaKain - 02-23-2016 Hmph, at least he has enough class to admit he has to change. I'm still waiting to see Mike Mitchell or pretty much anyone from that shit franchise in Pittsburgh acknowledge they're scum bags. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - 6andcounting - 02-23-2016 (02-23-2016, 08:11 PM)The Real Deal Wrote: "Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a form of tauopathy, is a progressive degenerative diseasefound in people who have suffered A severe blow to the head." Awesome copy and paste job from an unsourced Wikipedia article. Here's how Boston University's CTE Center defines CTE: "Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain found in athletes (and others) with a history of repetitive brain trauma, including symptomatic concussions as well as asymptomatic subconcussive hits to the head" RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-24-2016 (02-23-2016, 10:15 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Awesome copy and paste job from an unsourced Wikipedia article. Everything I do is awesome. I didn't think you were capable of learning but in this instance it seems you actually are! RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - Vlad - 02-24-2016 (02-24-2016, 12:10 AM)The Real Deal Wrote: Everything I do is awesome. That's not what your wife tells me. RE: Vontaze Burfict: 'I have to change' with game - The Real Deal - 02-24-2016 (02-24-2016, 02:12 AM)Vlad Wrote: That's not what your wife tells me. Is she calling the gay hotline for advice again? Women...... |