(04-29-2016, 10:40 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Remember when the Steelers were good at drafting and that's how they built championship teams?

Yeah........  me either.

We grabbed the corner they wanted right before them because that's how we do, so they reached and got a guy with a fourth-round grade.

Smart thinking, guys  

Yahoo rates it as a D+.

ProFootballFocus gave them a D.

BleacherReport was nicer and gave them a B, but that was a sympathy grade because of Burns' family problems.

SBNation gave them a C, while noting that the Steelers had the 30th ranked pass D and that Burns doesn't fit the Steelers' zone scheme.  They also note that they had him ranked in the 50s.

Steelers continue their free-fall and pretty soon all of you will only be able to talk about remembering past glory.............  but that's all you really do now anyways, so rock on  

(04-29-2016, 11:14 AM)Griever Wrote: are grades something meaningful now?

they are just like preseason power rankings

(04-29-2016, 11:19 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: lol........  Steelers fans love praise and always talk about how everyone speaks so highly of them and rates them so high, until they start making shitty moves and all of the sudden grades and such things are meaningless!

(04-29-2016, 11:23 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Find us an example or two for your claim please.

(04-29-2016, 11:26 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Which claims?  That the Steelers love high praise?   

You can't be serious!

Open your eyes!

It's all over!

Quote:By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

As mock drafts yield to reality tonight, two things we could reasonably assume regarding the Steelers:

They likely will not trade, and whoever they draft, they likely will get it right.

General manager Kevin Colbert said Monday they were not likely to move up in the first round of the draft, but kept his options open for moving down from No. 25 tonight. The Steelers have not made a move either way in the first round in 10 years, since they climbed seven spots to No. 25 in 2006 to draft Santonio Holmes.

They also have made the fewest trades of any NFL team during the draft in the past five years, doing it twice — in 2012 to move up in the fourth round (Alameda Ta’amu) and in 2013 to acquire an extra fourth-round pick (Shamarko Thomas).

In light of how those worked out, as well as their trades in which they threw away two 2016 picks last year to acquire kicker Josh Scobee (sixth) and cornerback Brandon Boykin (fifth), they should be even more reluctant to trade.

But a study published last week that covered the past 20 drafts shows the Steelers did the best job of any NFL team over the past two decades, even though during most of those drafts they were selecting closer to the end of rounds than they were to the top.

The Washington Post used the metric known as “draft value” that was created by ProFootballReference.com, the football bible for statistical NFL history. It measures various factors that include games started, stats, team performance and honors.

The Steelers easily came out on top with a number of 16.37, more than one full point ahead of second-place Indianapolis at 15.27. Cleveland finished last at 9.55.

Of those 20 drafts, Colbert has been point man of 16, which becomes 17 tonight. Have Colbert and the Steelers had their misses during that time? Certainly — Ziggy Hood, Dri Archer, Mike Adams, Limas Sweed, Ricardo Colclough, Alonzo Jackson, etc. Every team has them, but the Steelers have not butchered first-round picks in this century the way they did even in Chuck Noll’s days.

Yes, the great Chuck Noll failed miserably on many first-round picks. Here’s a list:
Greg Hawthorne (1979), Darryl Sims (1985), John Rienstra (1986), Aaron Jones (1988), Tim Worley (1989), Tom Ricketts (1989), Huey Richardson (1991).

Bill Cowher was not without his misses, either (Jamain Stephens, 1996).

They have not had as big a swing and miss in the first round in the past 16 drafts to compare with those, although if Jarvis Jones does not pick things up in 2016, he could be a candidate. Even Ziggy Hood had his moments.

Colbert and Mike Tomlin are recognized around the league as among the top duos in the NFL, not just when it comes to drafting college players but in acquiring and keeping talent and in putting it to good use.

“Kevin and Mike Tomlin should get a lot of credit,’’ said Tom Modrak, executive director of the Blesto scouting service. “Those two guys should be team of the year. Through suspensions, injuries, a new defensive coordinator, the running back hurt — there were a whole lot of things in there — the Steelers don’t cry. They just go play, it seems to me. If there was ever an award given out, they should have it for overcoming stuff.”

The Steelers certainly have their share of critics when it comes to drafts, particularly those of more recent vintage, and they’ve acknowledged their failures.

“We review every pick we’ve ever made and we talk about it and try to get better every year so we can avoid those mistakes,’’ Colbert said Monday. “But, we’ll probably make some more. I don’t know if that’s comforting to everybody. It’s not comforting to me, but it’s the truth.”

So too are the facts to back up their consistent successful drafting through the years.

Quote:Pittsburgh Steelers (No. 25)
Artie Burns, CB, Miami
Pittsburgh needed help in the secondary and added a cornerback who could turn out to be a significant contributor. Grade: B




Cincinnati Bengals (No. 24)

William Jackson, CB, Houston
Many thought the Bengals would take a wide receiver but they had the misfortune of picking just after wideouts were taken with three straight picks. Instead, they went with a cornerback who was well worth the 24th selection. Grade: B+

(04-29-2016, 11:29 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You said Steelers fans, not the Steelers.  Did you just eat a punch of old paint chips and wash them down with a nice glass of Flint tap water?

So, once again, examples please.  If they're "all over" they should be easy to find.

(04-29-2016, 11:32 AM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2016/04/28/Steelers-hope-to-continue-NFL-draft-success-tonight/stories/201604270186




As to last night:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/04/29/first-round-nfl-draft-grades-broncos-get-high-marks-and-the-jets-do-not/






WhooHoo?

(04-29-2016, 11:32 AM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2016/04/28/Steelers-hope-to-continue-NFL-draft-success-tonight/stories/201604270186




As to last night:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/04/29/first-round-nfl-draft-grades-broncos-get-high-marks-and-the-jets-do-not/






WhooHoo?

(04-29-2016, 11:33 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I know I said Steelers fans because it's all over these boards and listening to people in real life!

Quote:You seriously can't even try to argue that delusional Steelers fans on here and everywhere in the country don't act like your organization is flawless, can you?!  

Quote:Like I said, you can't negative rep, and you have nothing else of any intelligence to offer to anything!

(04-29-2016, 11:36 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Then why did you say the Steelers in your next post?

(04-29-2016, 11:36 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're the one making a claim.  I merely asked for a few examples that you apparently cannot provide.

(04-29-2016, 11:36 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Like I said, you never fail to entertain.

(04-29-2016, 11:38 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Maybe if the Steelers drafted better they would win a playoff game for the first time in over two decades.

(04-29-2016, 11:36 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're proving my point that they used to draft good and that's how they built their team but now they suck at it!

Thank you so much!

(04-29-2016, 11:36 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Then why did you say the Steelers in your next post?




You're the one making a claim.  I merely asked for a few examples that you apparently cannot provide.



Like I said, you never fail to entertain.

(04-29-2016, 01:17 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I was surprised to see Pitt reach. Thought they would go DL with Jackson Gone. Ofc Tomlin has been reaching for a while in round 1 with few exceptions.

(04-29-2016, 01:06 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: As usual reality disagrees with you
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/sports/nfl-draft-history/#NFL