(12-03-2016, 05:32 PM)PDub80 Wrote: But I think that the only thing that needs replaced in the off-season should be the OC. And I think that Norv Turner would be the best candidate to do so.

The players are still playing really hard. They just had a string of poor kicking in close games.

My offseason presricption for fixing the Bengals ails:

Replace the kicker
Bolster the Oline, and Dline
Grab a strong OC.

Sometimes teams have bad luck, but besides the kicker struggling mightily I think that the OC is a mess. Just too green to be handed the keys to such a high end team with high end expectations. There's no reason the offense should look the way it does. Especially in the red zone.

Norv Turner gets the MAX out of the TE spot and the Bengals have 3 studs and 1 other worldly player at that spot. He also can work a running game and stretch the field. I think he would also command the respect of Marvin and be left alone to do his thing.

What style of offense do you see benefiting the current roster? Do you want pass happy, deep threat, run more, West Coast? And what OC do you think could step in right away and make that happen seamlessly?

I predicted 7-9 before the season and felt that the team was due to have a down year. It's just typically how it goes in the NFL. I'm not as upset or bitter about it as a lot of other fans and don't think a total roster or coaching overhaul is going to be a step forward.

Thanks and Whodey!

(12-03-2016, 09:19 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: "What style of offense do you see benefiting the current roster?"

No Huddle/Hurry up. Whenever we go up tempo (going all the way back to Palmer days).. we succeed. It was born here for a reason.

(12-03-2016, 09:19 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: "What style of offense do you see benefiting the current roster?"

No Huddle/Hurry up. Whenever we go up tempo (going all the way back to Palmer days).. we succeed. It was born here for a reason.

(12-03-2016, 10:57 PM)Housh Wrote: Is it just me or do people feel me on the whole Zimmer blueprint thing?

Am I the only guy who would not have changed much the year after a guy like freaking Mike Zimmer left? Dude if I was Gunther I literally would've stole that mans playbook and changed LITTLE things SLOWLY over the course of MULTIPLE games.


How we went from a decent defense to pure trash with exactly the same roster, actually Zimmer didn't have Burfict last season mostly so Gunther has the same roster PLUS Burfict minus Reggie Nelson.

Gunther came in and turned us into a zone defense team. I'm cool with that.....IF WE HAVE THE PLAYERS TO RUN IT!! We freaking DONT. None of our players have EVER been praised for having high football IQ except Burfict. So that's ONE FREAKING guy who is suited to run zone defense out of 11. And people wonder why our defense is so trash. Its too complicated for the guys, and Gunther refuses to change it. Do you think when the guy from New England retires his replacement is gonna throw away everything he did that made the Patriots great? NO. Hes gonna steal that shit and make it his own ever time.


So boom now were looking at a possible 4 or 5 win season

(12-03-2016, 05:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 1. Yes, because changing the OC in the past has solved all their issues with primetime, postseason, game management, halftime adjustments, etc.  

2. Norv Turner quit on his team midseason this year, didn't he? Pass.

3. We saw this year what happens with a Turner offense behind a suspect OL. It wasn't pretty. If he can't change his scheme to help negate the bad OL, then how is he good enough to be the answer?

(12-04-2016, 12:45 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Would you consider not losing in the postseason this year to be an upgrade?

(12-04-2016, 03:27 AM)grampahol Wrote: I'm already fully prepared to see Zamp as the OC next year and not because I think he's worth a hoot, but because the front office will keep him there out of misplaced loyalty. I truly admire loyalty and wish more people even knew what it means, but in this case it's loyalty to a fault and not in a good way.
No, they'll keep him in there at least another season just like they'll keep Marvin with the reasoning that it's just a bump in the road to hell. In fact I would be surprised if they dump either of them.
I know it sounds like I'm in favor of keeping them, but anyone who thinks that is most definitely mistaken. I want to see both gone, but I hold zero sway with the team and very few of us do so they'll do what they always do and stick to the losers and give Hobson a nice pay raise to tell us all the benefits of keeping the two coaches who seem hell bent on moving us backwards in history to the 90s so that in 5 or 6 years from now they can brag about their rebuilding efforts.
I've given up on optimism. It always lets me down.

(12-03-2016, 09:21 PM)Wyche Wrote: Whatever you do.....can Piano Man.

(12-04-2016, 01:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: zampese is not the problem with the offense.  The O-line is the problem.

Seriously, how can you blame Zampese for our red zone problems when we can not gain a single yard rushhing onm most plays inside the 10 yard line.

I'd rather replace Marvin and keep Zampese than the other way around.

(12-04-2016, 01:25 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yep. I'd rather keep Marvin and can PA than vice-versa. That's saying something.


Agreed. I haven't exactly been thrilled with Zamp, but it'd be unfair to judge him too harshly with this o-line. Marv could make PA his fall guy, and I'd almost be okay with that. 

(12-03-2016, 05:32 PM)PDub80 Wrote: But I think that the only thing that needs replaced in the off-season should be the OC. And I think that Norv Turner would be the best candidate to do so.

The players are still playing really hard. They just had a string of poor kicking in close games.

My offseason presricption for fixing the Bengals ails:

Replace the kicker
Bolster the Oline, and Dline
Grab a strong OC.

Sometimes teams have bad luck, but besides the kicker struggling mightily I think that the OC is a mess. Just too green to be handed the keys to such a high end team with high end expectations. There's no reason the offense should look the way it does. Especially in the red zone.

Norv Turner gets the MAX out of the TE spot and the Bengals have 3 studs and 1 other worldly player at that spot. He also can work a running game and stretch the field. I think he would also command the respect of Marvin and be left alone to do his thing.

What style of offense do you see benefiting the current roster? Do you want pass happy, deep threat, run more, West Coast? And what OC do you think could step in right away and make that happen seamlessly?

I predicted 7-9 before the season and felt that the team was due to have a down year. It's just typically how it goes in the NFL. I'm not as upset or bitter about it as a lot of other fans and don't think a total roster or coaching overhaul is going to be a step forward.

Thanks and Whodey!