(08-06-2023, 10:06 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Cody Ford was brought in and Da Ante Smith, and Jackson Kirkland have all had better camps by some reports I've seen. Then you have LC getting close.

Im serious, I would 100% not be shocked if Carman doesn't make this team. 

(08-06-2023, 10:06 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Cody Ford was brought in and Da Ante Smith, and Jackson Kirkland have all had better camps by some reports I've seen. Then you have LC getting close.

Im serious, I would 100% not be shocked if Carman doesn't make this team. 

(08-06-2023, 11:44 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Once training camp ends and the season begins these are the hideous sideline hats coaches and players get to wear:

https://www.neweracap.com/collections/nfl-sideline?sort_by=manual&filter.p.m.my_fields.team=Cincinnati+Bengals

(08-06-2023, 11:39 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Idk Weezy, I'd say that the team is counting on Carman also being the backup LT, seeing as he filled in as well as he did in the playoff games.  I think that Ford was brought in for his versatility to backup 3 spots.  I see Kirkland as a developmental/practice squad project and eventually making the roster down the road.  I believe that D'ante Smith would have to have the camp of his lifetime in order to avoid not making the team, same with Adeneji.

(08-06-2023, 11:44 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Once training camp ends and the season begins these are the hideous sideline hats coaches and players get to wear:

https://www.neweracap.com/collections/nfl-sideline?sort_by=manual&filter.p.m.my_fields.team=Cincinnati+Bengals

(08-06-2023, 10:12 AM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Good for you.

(08-06-2023, 11:44 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Once training camp ends and the season begins these are the hideous sideline hats coaches and players get to wear:

https://www.neweracap.com/collections/nfl-sideline?sort_by=manual&filter.p.m.my_fields.team=Cincinnati+Bengals

(08-06-2023, 12:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I've seen several articles touting Irv Smith Jr. I've learned through the years to take training camp hype with a grain of salt. But Perhaps this guy can breakthrough this season?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/irv-smith-jr-continues-to-get-attention/ar-AA1eQ7aN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c633b9e5b6c3400a9f85a2a0b6b66141&ei=13

Quote:Injury History

Date
League
Injury
DetailsDec 2, 2020
NFL
Inguinal Groin Strain Grade 2
Smith was sidelined for the Week 13 game due to a back injury.
Nov 25, 2020
NFL
Inguinal Groin Strain Grade 2
Smith was ruled out for the Week 12 game due to a groin injury. He sat out in Week 10 with this injury but returned to a limited role in Week 11.
Aug 27, 2021
NFL
Knee Meniscus Tear
Smith suffered a meniscus injury during Minnesota's preseason finale at Kansas City. He is likely out for the season
Aug 2, 2022
NFL
Hand Finger Sprain/Pull Unspecified
Smith underwent thumb surgery Tuesday, but the Vikings are optimistic he will be ready for Week 1, Kevin Seifert of ESPN reports. "We still feel very strongly about our process to get him back," coach Kevin O'Connell noted of the team's top tight end, "an
Oct 30, 2022
NFL
Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3
Smith went down against the Cardinals in Week 8. He returned for the Wild Card Round.

(08-06-2023, 12:50 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, everything that I've been reading about Irv Smith Jr. has been glowingly positive from his peers and coaches.  It's a foregone truth that Smith is a very talented player, the question has been weather he'll be able to stay healthy for an entire season and Superbowl run.

Edit: Seems like most of his injuries have been flukey type of things, and/or normal injuries that come with football.  No torn achilles, no acl/mcl reconstruction, no chronic back problems, etc.

(08-06-2023, 01:02 PM)QueenCity Wrote: Irv Smith Jr if you go box score watching flashes in a ton of games.... the issue with him has always been can he stay on the field.

(08-06-2023, 12:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I've seen several articles touting Irv Smith Jr. I've learned through the years to take training camp hype with a grain of salt. But Perhaps this guy can breakthrough this season?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/irv-smith-jr-continues-to-get-attention/ar-AA1eQ7aN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c633b9e5b6c3400a9f85a2a0b6b66141&ei=13

(08-05-2023, 07:30 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: If Jonah doesnt look significantly better than Carman, he needs to be traded.  Let Carman man the RT position until Collins is ready.  Save that 12.6 million we would use on Jonah this year and give it to Reader and Awuzie on contract extensions.  Keeping Jonah one year is not worth letting Reader and Awuzie get away.  This is of course assuming neither Reader and Awuzie demand big raises.  Extend Reader for a couple more years, give him a couple million dollars more per year.  Extend Awuzie and give him 4 million more per year.

(08-05-2023, 09:22 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Word is Jonah has been looking good at RT. I would imagine he will be the guy at RT this year and I am more than happy with the starters and depth we have this year and don't really want to change that. But I love Reader and I think he is the heart of this defense. So if we had to trade Jonah to keep Reader for a couple more seasons I would go that way but I would be nervous about the line and that's something we've done far to often.

(08-05-2023, 09:41 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I don't think Carman is going to make the team. 

(08-05-2023, 11:20 PM)samhain Wrote: I don't see any way he gets let go unless he gets traded.

It may seem like we a have a lot of OTs, but Collins isn't ready.  Ahead of schedule, maybe, but not ready.  That leaves OBJ, Jonah, then Carman.  There's no way in the world anyone is convincing me that he's not better than Adeniji.  

Jackson is a huge lineman that acquitted himself well at LT in a critical situation last year.  He's got all a team wants other than consistency.  

The league is loaded with teams that are starving for big, versatile OL.  The only way I let a guy like him go is if I get something in return.  

Carman at the very least is the backup swing tackle.

(08-06-2023, 10:06 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Cody Ford was brought in and Da Ante Smith, and Jackson Kirkland have all had better camps by some reports I've seen. Then you have LC getting close.

Im serious, I would 100% not be shocked if Carman doesn't make this team. 

(08-06-2023, 01:54 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: “Never on this level,” Smith said, according to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com. “This is the best coaching staff I’ve been around. I put a lot of time and effort into getting better in the offseason and they’ve seen that and it’s a blessing.”

And offensive coordinator Brian Callahan spoke on this topic too, going as far as saying Smith indeed brings a different skill set than his predecessors.

“We try to call things guys like. That tends to make it work. That tends to make a good play,” Callahan said. “Irv is good in space. He’s different than the tight ends we’ve had before. He has real ability to separate and win after the catch.”

(08-06-2023, 02:54 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I believe the guy has a good chance to turn his career around, we'll see? Can he stay on the field I think is the big giant question?

(08-06-2023, 03:04 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: At the very least we know Carman would be an OK backup at LT.  He can also play LG.  Even if he doesnt win a starting job, he is still better than some of the other options for backups.