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RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:15 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The frustrating part is the mental error. He's straight up on the G and all he has to do it extend his arms and drive him straight back, make the RB choose and come off to make the play and he decides to dive hard inside. C'mon man...

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AND he has help coming from his right!!

Yep, if Logan filled the hole on the outside shoulder of the Guard and drove the RB inside to his help it could of been a nice stop instead of a monster run.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - rfaulk34 - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:24 PM)Synric Wrote: The issue was TJ Slayton slanted the wrong direction away from the front side of the zone run. Demetrius Knight should have used his hands and took on the free climbing OL instead of trying to play around him in my opinion too.

While all that holds, Logan has been around way too long to allow the G to block him out of the play so easily. If he's going to be the last line of defense because someone else isn't playing their assignment properly, he could have still cleaned it up. It almost looked like a desperation dive inside to try and "make a play" when the play was right in front of him the whole time. 

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Synric - 08-08-2025

Here is the Will Shipley run play you are discussing.


You see TJ Slayton slant thr wrong direction freeing up the OL to easily climb to the LBs. The MIKE (Wilson) filled a gap fast but Demetrius read it kinda slow and got walled off then tried to ghost hands and play around thr climbing OL instead of through him.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - rfaulk34 - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:31 PM)Synric Wrote: Here is the Will Shipley run play you are discussing.


You see TJ Slayton slant thr wrong direction freeing up the OL to easily climb to the LBs. The MIKE (Wilson) filled a gap fast but Demetrius read it kinda slow and got walled off then tried to ghost hands and play around thr climbing OL instead of through him.

Whole lotta wtf moments there. 

I'm still blaming Logan the most. Vet, had the play in front of him and made the Gs block eeeaaaasyyy. 

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - NUGDUKWE - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:31 PM)Synric Wrote: Here is the Will Shipley run play you are discussing.


You see TJ Slayton slant thr wrong direction freeing up the OL to easily climb to the LBs. The MIKE (Wilson) filled a gap fast but Demetrius read it kinda slow and got walled off then tried to ghost hands and play around thr climbing OL instead of through him.

After you said that it does look to be mostly on Slayton there. His move really blew up the whole defensive front for the Bengals. Took Jenkins out of the play while freeing up OL to block the linebackers.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Truck_1_0_1_ - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:13 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Yeah once the later guys come in its tough to judge. For me its more about seeing breakdowns if certain players are playing with the correct leverage and how guys on both lines are playing. 

Also I shouldn't even mention it because its preseason and it doesnt matter but they seemed to be calling a really tight game on the Bengals. But I believe it was one of Brownings first drives it ended on an incomplete pass to Jones but the replay looked like the DB was doing karate on him before the ball got there. Just popped in my head today when thinking about some of the Bengals bone head penalties. But better now than the regular season.

As mentioned in the rep comment, you're 100% bang on: you want to see guys' technique and leverage indeed.

As for the bolded, it was a sloppy game called by the refs, on both sides. Vinovich keeps getting marquee games and situations, but he's just as bad as the worst refs of the past decade.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Essex Johnson - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 04:59 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: We dont know that Trey hasn't moved. We know they've agreed on years and the avg but we dont know how much either side moved to come to that agreement.

Actually he mentioned he was still committed to 3 year full guarantees  in a comment this week and that he would not play this year without an agreement. There has been few reported Bengals have moved up their offer, so I would say it seems tre is more entrenched with his position

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Synric - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:42 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: After you said that it does look to be mostly on Slayton there. His move really blew up the whole defensive front for the Bengals. Took Jenkins out of the play while freeing up OL to block the linebackers.


What should have happened was Kris Jenkins plays the backside A Gap (Cutback lane). TJ Slaton would have flowed play side taking on the Center, who should have never been on the second level, filing the playside A gap with Logan Wilson filling the playside B Gap letting Knight flow from his WILL unblocked. The LE (Myles Murphy) was holding the C Gap (bounce lane). 


Really seems like it was just a communications error.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - bfine32 - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:31 PM)Synric Wrote: Here is the Will Shipley run play you are discussing.


You see TJ Slayton slant thr wrong direction freeing up the OL to easily climb to the LBs. The MIKE (Wilson) filled a gap fast but Demetrius read it kinda slow and got walled off then tried to ghost hands and play around thr climbing OL instead of through him.

Looks like they were trying to do an inside stunt with Slayton and Jenkins and ran into each other. I can think of no other reason they both cut so hard

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 05:50 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: As mentioned in the rep comment, you're 100% bang on: you want to see guys' technique and leverage indeed.

As for the bolded, it was a sloppy game called by the refs, on both sides. Vinovich keeps getting marquee games and situations, but he's just as bad as the worst refs of the past decade.

Yeah, never liked the way Vinovich refs. That was a blatant PI by the Eagles DB on Chuck.

(08-08-2025, 06:12 PM)Synric Wrote: What should have happened was Kris Jenkins plays the backside A Gap (Cutback lane). TJ Slaton would have flowed play side taking on the Center, who should have never been on the second level, filing the playside A gap with Logan Wilson filling the playside B Gap letting Knight flow from his WILL unblocked. The LE (Myles Murphy) was holding the C Gap (bounce lane). 


Really seems like it was just a communications error.

Well said, it was pretty much the front 7 besides Murphy that screwed up.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Luvnit2 - 08-08-2025

TY for the experts weighing in. It looks like we had comminication and other errors on the big run. The good news is this is fixable. I also saw Zac said they decided to play vanilla to not give up that they will be doing week 1. He said as a result he knew it would create 1 on 1 situations and our guys lost too many 1 on 1's.

I took that as Golden has a plan and is working on that plan in practice so hopefully that means week 1 the Browns have no idea what defense Golden will call on any given play.

As for Zac's comments it seemed the same guys were getting beat 1 on 1 and that was Turner and Ivey the worst, otheres as well. I was disappointed with the defense and backup offense overall, but it is a long year so may take time to see improvements.

I thought Jenkins played very well, other said no, what did I miss?

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - NUGDUKWE - 08-08-2025

(08-08-2025, 06:40 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: TY for the experts weighing in. It looks like we had comminication and other errors on the big run. The good news is this is fixable. I also saw Zac said they decided to play vanilla to not give up that they will be doing week 1. He said as a result he knew it would create 1 on 1 situations and our guys lost too many 1 on 1's.

I took that as Golden has a plan and is working on that plan in practice so hopefully that means week 1 the Browns have no idea what defense Golden will call on any given play.

As for Zac's comments it seemed the same guys were getting beat 1 on 1 and that was Turner and Ivey the worst, otheres as well. I was disappointed with the defense and backup offense overall, but it is a long year so may take time to see improvements.

I thought Jenkins played very well, other said no, what did I miss?

Jenkins and Fairchild have been getting the most praise outside of Burrow and the top skill players for theyre play last night. Jenkins did flash a bit and the breakdowns of Fairchild have been good.

Im still high on Turner and think/hope his game will steadily improve.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Shake n Blake - 08-08-2025

The Patriots once traded Richard Seymour in his prime, and that was with Tom Brady who usually played at a discount. I'm not saying what they should or shouldn't do. I love Trey. Some guys on here think he's a one trick pony or downplay him as a player. I don't.

I just like to know all the facts and we don't. I also know we're going to lose some guys when the passing game has record amounts of cash flowing towards it.

Hopefully that won't be Trey, but we'll have to wait and see.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - J24 - 08-09-2025

(08-08-2025, 07:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The Patriots once traded Richard Seymour in his prime, and that was with Tom Brady who usually played at a discount. I'm not saying what they should or shouldn't do. I love Trey. Some guys on here think he's a one trick pony or downplay him as a player. I don't.

I just like to know all the facts and we don't. I also know we're going to lose some guys when the passing game has record amounts of cash flowing towards it.

Hopefully that won't be Trey, but we'll have to wait and see.

If we trade Trey I hope it would be a player + picks instead of just picks. Denver  or Rams makes  a lot of sense  in this scenario. 

(DEN)Trey for John Franklin Myers + A 3rd RD pick +5th  RD pick

(LAR) Trey for Byron Young  + 2nd RD pick

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Soonerpeace - 08-09-2025

(08-08-2025, 06:40 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: TY for the experts weighing in. It looks like we had comminication and other errors on the big run. The good news is this is fixable. I also saw Zac said they decided to play vanilla to not give up that they will be doing week 1. He said as a result he knew it would create 1 on 1 situations and our guys lost too many 1 on 1's.

I took that as Golden has a plan and is working on that plan in practice so hopefully that means week 1 the Browns have no idea what defense Golden will call on any given play.

As for Zac's comments it seemed the same guys were getting beat 1 on 1 and that was Turner and Ivey the worst, otheres as well. I was disappointed with the defense and backup offense overall, but it is a long year so may take time to see improvements.

I thought Jenkins played very well, other said no, what did I miss?

Player comments were that the defense was vanilla

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - pally - 08-10-2025



RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - bfine32 - 08-10-2025

(08-10-2025, 07:49 PM)pally Wrote:

Trey to Indy for Kwity Paye and a 2026 3rd.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - J24 - 08-10-2025

(08-10-2025, 08:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Trey to Indy for Kwity Paye and a 2026 3rd.
Meh- although it does sound realistic; maybe move change that 3rd into  2nd and we have a deal.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Essex Johnson - 08-11-2025

(08-10-2025, 08:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Trey to Indy for Kwity Paye and a 2026 3rd.

this would be a realistic trade this point in season, i doubt we can get a 2nd this time in season and what Tre is commanding with contract.  The question is will the Bengals call Tre bluff or is the bluff the truth and he holds out starting of season.

RE: Trey Hendrickson Update - Millhouse - 08-11-2025

(08-09-2025, 11:32 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Player comments were that the defense was vanilla

Hopefully that was the case, and hopefully they don't go vanilla this next ps game.