(06-04-2019, 01:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ida know...he's only played like 4 games with Dalton so he's technically a rookie.  Plus, if the new offensive system is good it's still his first year in a new system, and if the offensive system isn't good it'll be the system's fault.

(06-05-2019, 11:03 AM)Catmandude123 Wrote: The so called negative Nancy's won't ever appreciate a number nine draft pick that probably has zero chance of being a WR1. All people are hired with expectations. If you don't live up to them then you will NEVER get the respect that you would have gotten if you lived up to those expectations. That's life. 

(06-05-2019, 12:58 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: True. We just have to give Ross a chance. 


 We don't need him to be a 1000 yard WR1. 

(06-05-2019, 12:44 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: The bengals on draft day 2017.  Let’s draft Ross even if he doesn’t get 200 yards a year as long as he’s on the field that’s a success because he opens up the offense.  Ok awesome let’s draft this decoy with the number 9 pick.  Yes. This will be brilliant strategy.  

I have no idea why we haven’t won a playoff game since 1990.   Shocking

(06-05-2019, 01:05 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Would 630 yards, 0 TDs be viewed as better than 210 yards, 7 TDs?

(06-05-2019, 01:40 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ehh, what can you do? Even if Ross is or does open up the underneath stuff for the other guys, we are using a top 10 pick to do something the Steelers got out of a scrapheap WR in Darius Heyward Bey.

Wait...he's a free agent now.  And now I'm looking at his stats and they've been super low for the past 3 years.  Still, he paid off for them.  At any rate, Ross being our 5th option at WR sort of reminds me of Hobsin semi-bragging about how our team had the luxury of having so many high draft picks on the bench for the o-line.  Um...great?

(06-05-2019, 10:52 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not watch him every play so may be wrong, but I think he should be in motion more so other teams can't check him easily within 5 yards. He is not big so I can see his routes being disrupted and messing up the timing. Since AD is a timing QB, that could mess up their connection ability.

But, the reality is as of now, he is still AD's 3rd to 5th options in most games or plays. Will Zac and OC try and feature him against some teams due to match ups? I think that is on Ross to prove he deserves it, that starts in practice.

(06-05-2019, 02:07 PM)depthchart Wrote: I would be more confident in Ross' future if I had seen the 630 receiving yards last year.

Getting the yards should mean that the TDs should eventually follow at some point going forward & that he was holding up to getting hit a lot.

It seemed that a number of his TDs were designed for him to use his cutting quickness to get separation when the team was fairly close to the end zone or for some longer TD attempts. Timing with Dalton on those plays was good and his step & cut quickness got enough space then the play ended with the TD. Doing these same timing routes in the field of play will likely end in big hits on Ross by defenders. Could be good for chain moving but Ross may take a beating.

Seeing him have 630 yards plus taking the extra hits associated with that would be more encouraging to me. I would prefer to have seen him adapt in different areas of the field of play with the expectation of being hit by defenders very high while his body holds up to the hitting. The designed TD attempt plays may be simpler for him to know exactly what to do; while racking up 630 yards in a variety of situations would likely mean that he is handling a more complex mental side to his game.

(06-05-2019, 03:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Perhaps the usage of Ross was actually intended to avoid having many big hits in order to avoid injury though.
If that's the case, that's on the coaches.
He was coming off multiple injuries from years prior, so I could understand the previous coaching staff being cautious.

(06-05-2019, 11:03 AM)Catmandude123 Wrote: The so called negative Nancy's won't ever appreciate a number nine draft pick that probably has zero chance of being a WR1. All people are hired with expectations. If you don't live up to them then you will NEVER get the respect that you would have gotten if you lived up to those expectations. That's life. 

(06-05-2019, 01:05 PM)ochocincos Wrote: For those giving Ross a hard time about his lack of yards, think about how fantasy football treats TDs vs yards.
Typically, a receiving TD is the equivalent of 60 yards (6 pts).
7 TDs is the equivalent of 420 yards.
Add those yards to the 210 he had last year and he'd have been at 630 yards.
Would 630 yards, 0 TDs be viewed as better than 210 yards, 7 TDs?

(06-05-2019, 01:37 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: We drafted him to be the heir to AJ but he has under preformed his first two years. The number nine pick in the draft isn't picked to be a  wr3 no matter what you think. You don't become a wr1 by draft status you compete and take that title. Dalton has no trust in him so my bet is after this year he or Dalton are gone.

(06-05-2019, 05:17 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: For me it's not about yards or TD's so much as his awful conversion rate. Most of his targets wind up on the ground. It's not an Andy problem because he's never struggled like that with anyone else.


Look, I'm just saying that (a) there's no way he's going to start over Green or Boyd and (b) saying he's a total failure as a player unless he becomes a bonafide #1 is kinda silly. He can still be a good player and disappointing for where he was selected. These are not mutually exclusive.

(06-05-2019, 05:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Ross did have 7 drops, so that was a problem.

(06-05-2019, 05:41 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Well yeah, there's that too. I'm talking about 21 catches on 58 targets though. That means Dalton threw to him 58 times, and it was only completed 21 times (36.0%). That's more of a route running problem or an effort problem. The drops do play into that as well, but even if you count the drops as catches, he'd still be at 48% which is still bad. 

For comparison, Boyd caught 76 of 108 targets (70.4%) and Green caught 46 of 77 (59.7%).

(06-05-2019, 05:54 PM)impactplaya Wrote: wasnt there another QB last year that was throwing Ross?
what was his name..
Eddie Haskell.....Jeff Driskel....?
Driskel had the accuracy of a 6 year old urinating at a mall bathroom.

(06-05-2019, 05:17 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: For me it's not about yards or TD's so much as his awful conversion rate. Most of his targets wind up on the ground. It's not an Andy problem because he's never struggled like that with anyone else.


Look, I'm just saying that (a) there's no way he's going to start over Green or Boyd and (b) saying he's a total failure as a player unless he becomes a bonafide #1 is kinda silly. He can still be a good player and disappointing for where he was selected. These are not mutually exclusive.

(06-05-2019, 09:00 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: If he doesn't nail the next two years he won't be a Bengal. When a first rounder can' stay on the team for a full five years he is a bust . Saying he is a adequate player is a term for late rounders. Missing on so many first round picks is why the team is where it is now. 

(06-05-2019, 09:51 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: If Akili Ross doesn't produce in his first 4 games this season, he should be traded for some reliable LB or QB.

(06-05-2019, 05:41 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Well yeah, there's that too. I'm talking about 21 catches on 58 targets though. That means Dalton threw to him 58 times, and it was only completed 21 times (36.0%). That's more of a route running problem or an effort problem. The drops do play into that as well, but even if you count the drops as catches, he'd still be at 48% which is still bad. 

For comparison, Boyd caught 76 of 108 targets (70.4%) and Green caught 46 of 77 (59.7%).