(12-13-2019, 02:00 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is OK, bringing up a thread 3 months later proves my point. some fans hate and root against our players period.

BTW..Ross has much better numbers than 15 million a year AJ Green in 2019.

(12-13-2019, 03:08 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m talking specifically about his in-game coaching, lack of adjustments, failure to get the team ready for primetime/playoffs, etc.

He helped build some good teams here, but I don’t think he was a particularly good HC. Although the jabroni we have now makes Marvin look like Belichick...

(12-12-2019, 09:41 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: Ross was an injury prone one trick pony in college and he still is in the NFL.

Great pick by Dufus Tobin

(12-13-2019, 02:00 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is OK, bringing up a thread 3 months later proves my point. some fans hate and root against our players period.

BTW..Ross has much better numbers than 15 million a year AJ Green in 2019.

(12-13-2019, 09:23 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Ara you rooting against Green by saying that?

(12-13-2019, 12:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Can’t say I’m surprised so many fans have turned on AJ. Why would I expect it to end any other way...

(12-13-2019, 10:20 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: He was injured playing cornerback, trying to help his team (which he did), when the suspended Marcus Peters was out.  He is NOT a one-trick pony.  If you watched him in college at all you would know that.  If the Bengals use him in a limited way, it may be because they planned on using him that way with Boyd, Eifert, and Green out there with him.  

I am still puzzled why he isn't used on more screens.  He would make one man miss and then off to the races.  

Sure, looking back I am pretty sure we would all prefer Mahommes  , but Ross is a weapon that changes the way teams defend the Bengals.  Look at the offensive output the games he has played.  Not just his, but the entire team's output.  Teams drop safeties and that not only opens the middle of the field for Boyd, Eifert, and someday Green, but it also helps the rushing attack.  

(09-09-2019, 11:31 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I'll admit when he dove and popped up the first pass sent his way and it was almost picked I thought "Classic, always interesting Ross."  I will say though that hearing people around here say that after he has a brutal drop you just have to go right back to him reminds me a bit too much of my time in Chicago when Bears fans would say that Rex Grossman would have a good game once he got an INT or two out of his system.

(12-13-2019, 12:23 PM)R3stangs Wrote: Without starting an argument here as I really am just curious.

If Green is able to play, you are honestly cool with a guy being paid $15mil to decide he's just not going to play per the contract he signed?

(12-13-2019, 01:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: There is no reason for him to play. We need to lose out and secure the 1st pick. I have no idea why people are so bothered by him sitting out. If we were in a playoff hunt I’d understand the frustration. But our season was over before he was even close to being ready to come back.

Also, it’s funny to me how much people care about Mike Brown’s money lol

(12-13-2019, 01:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: There is no reason for him to play. We need to lose out and secure the 1st pick. I have no idea why people are so bothered by him sitting out. If we were in a playoff hunt I’d understand the frustration. But our season was over before he was even close to being ready to come back.

Also, it’s funny to me how much people care about Mike Brown’s money lol

(12-13-2019, 09:23 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Ara you rooting against Green by saying that?

(12-13-2019, 11:13 AM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: As ok as it is to bring up a John Ross eating crow thread after one game .    John Ross is still garbage.  But he did have that impressive Seattle game.

(09-09-2019, 11:02 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Time to step up and say you were wrong. If you ignored his 7 TD's in 2018 and ignored he was hurt a rookie and jumped to the conclusion John Ross was a bust, then time to take your medicine and eat crow.

Bust in the NFL don;t go for 158 yards and 2 TD's in one game.

Seriously, I have said all along, don't be too quick to judge, root for his success and not his demise. He made our offense look potentially dangerous and it was fun to watch.

My hope is we can get a healthy Green, Boyd and Ross on the field sooner than later. We on't be Patriot good (man they look Bush and Steelers defense look bad (no AB yet) last night. Bush was getting beat all over the field, his tackles were 8 to 10 yards down field, tough night for the rookie LB on their defense.

But, I digressed.

Eat crow baby.

(12-13-2019, 07:21 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Never, I have his jersey.

Just stating a fact which is relevant to this conversation.

I hope he plays this week and last 3 games.

(12-13-2019, 02:00 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is OK, bringing up a thread 3 months later proves my point. some fans hate and root against our players period.

BTW..Ross has much better numbers than 15 million a year AJ Green in 2019.

(12-13-2019, 12:23 PM)R3stangs Wrote: Without starting an argument here as I really am just curious.

If Green is able to play, you are honestly cool with a guy being paid $15mil to decide he's just not going to play per the contract he signed?

(12-13-2019, 01:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: There is no reason for him to play. We need to lose out and secure the 1st pick. I have no idea why people are so bothered by him sitting out. If we were in a playoff hunt I’d understand the frustration. But our season was over before he was even close to being ready to come back.

Also, it’s funny to me how much people care about Mike Brown’s money lol

(12-13-2019, 08:44 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Fwiw, I normally wouldn't be but considering how he got hurt I'm totally fine with it. Those guys should have never been on that field and the team should have refused to hold practice there.

FYI: There's also been a report floating around, that has been mentioned a few times on local shows, that an offer was on the table that both sides were working through that was then pulled after he was injured.

I can understand the pulling of the of the offer (its just business) but I can understand AJ's camp vuewing it as a slap in the face. Especially considering all the things surrounding the injury, and him coming back too early in years past too.

I do think he intended to play, but the season was lost by the time of his return. Then I think any chance of him playing the back half went out the window when Dalton was benched. And now its just too late. There's not enough reward to outweigh the tremendous risk in playing a few games.

Just my 2 cents...