(04-04-2020, 04:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: YXD isn't questioning the Burrow draft pick Jersey, he is making fun of the one's questioning the Burrow draft pick.

Maybe he should of added this.

(04-04-2020, 03:52 PM)McC Wrote: Right.  Because a second round pick is exactly the same as several firsts and a few seconds in more than one draft.

(04-04-2020, 04:46 PM)JerseyDD09 Wrote: Sorry YD!!! Well, at least I added Jmoore in there at the end! Lmao

So that post will go to all the ones questioning the pick then! 

(04-04-2020, 04:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm just saying the Dolphins might not know a good QB from a hole in the ground if they blew a 2nd on Rosen.  To say "Well, if the Dolphins want him he's gotta be the best QB in the draft" is putting more faith in that shat organization's front office than they deserve.

I think Burrow is the best QB in this draft, but not because the dumbass Dolphins want him.



They blew a 2nd round pick on a QB they gave what, 2 games and then gave up on?  Sure, they'd trade more for Burrow but they'd get way more out of him, too.  At any rate, before anyone attacks me let me say that Burrow is awesome and the best and he gives me a football boner so don't take this post as some sort of knock against the guy.  I'm just here to point out that giving the Dolphins credit on QB evaluation is rough since they spent picks making their QB room much worse this season.

(04-04-2020, 04:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No it’s not. Burrow beat the #8 team in the country in a bowl game in 2018. Period. The whole “he never did anything before Joe Brady” is just simply not true.

(04-04-2020, 04:40 PM)JerseyDD09 Wrote: 1. He wasn't "Good" for one year. He was "good" for 1 year in 2018 with a mediocre Offensive Coordinator and game plan. And, He was "The BEST EVER in College Football HISTORY" under a Pro style New Orleans Saints offense. An offense which Concepts and WR Tree route every NFL team bases their offense off of other than maybe Baltimore.
An offense that is perfectly suited for a Zac Taylor type offense, who runs 11 personnel more than any NFL team in the league last year at a 70% clip. Guess how many 3 and 4 WR sets the LSU offense YD????  A LOT!
If you understood basic football concepts such as this YD, you would never be questioning this draft pick since Burrow's Completion Accuracy was also over 73%, one of the best of all time.

2. He didn't start at OSU b/c in his Sophomore year, he got a fluke injury on his throwing thumb; and JT Barrett won the job and took off running all the way to the National title. OSU also doesn't run a pro style offense, more compatible for a JT Barrett or a Braxton Miller, without a WR tree route which most NFL teams run. Please tell me which OSU QB has succeeded in the NFL recently???

3. Shit is getting tiring debating with guys like you the basic concepts of Pro football, making arguments that hold no bearing whatsoever, with little evidence to show for it. Spitting out basic, generic sentences with no back up evidence whatsoever.

Lastly, even if you were correct that it was a 1 year wonder type of QB. I'd still take my chances with a guy like Burrow. Why?
1. His "One year wonder" theory by you and others was after all in the most ready Pro style league year after year in the SEC.
2. He did it against the best overall teams, winning more Top 20 games than anyone did and beating the best teams from every other league.
3. His list of teams he took down were:  AT ALABAMA (Do you know how hard that is YD)?, Georgia twice, Auburn (Best defense in College), Oklahoma, Clemson
4. He's a Coaches son, and he took every challenge on in regards to learning to the next level.
5. His competitive nature is already in the myths of Aaron Rodgers according to his teammates.
6. His throwing motion, accuracy and leadership qualities are compared to Tom Brady according to football analysts.
7. When you have a hands down Overall CONSENSUS #1 QB such as Burrow is, you can't pass him up if you're drafting #1. If you pass on him, and he goes on to greatness, the Franchise who passed on them would be hammered for years and years to come. It would be devastating even to a floundering franchise like our Bengals.

Please come at us with more evidence than the garbage you and Jmoore are spouting out. It's embarrassing.

(04-04-2020, 05:18 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: So with all what you said.. he was still projected coming into last season 3/4 round range.. and if Tua is not hurt and wins that game..Burrow slides and Tua goes as #1.. hmm slim line 

(04-04-2020, 06:30 PM)Joelist Wrote: Burrow finally gets a season in a proper pro style offensive system and dominates in a historic manner. The previous season he was not in a pro style system and even still posted efficient numbers.

I have to think the direction we went in free agency indicates we will be drafting mostly offensive players.

(04-04-2020, 06:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Time will tell, but he's looking to slide into one of the more deficient NFL offensive systems right off the bat, here.  

(04-04-2020, 06:48 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: New QB. New LT. Star WR back. It should look a hell of a lot different.

(04-04-2020, 08:03 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: At this point, the only reason I would want Tua over Burrow is that his name looks cooler on the back of a jersey. Burrow seems mundane compared to Tagovailoa. Oh well.

(04-04-2020, 08:03 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: At this point, the only reason I would want Tua over Burrow is that his name looks cooler on the back of a jersey. Burrow seems mundane compared to Tagovailoa. Oh well.

(04-04-2020, 06:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Time will tell, but he's looking to slide into one of the more deficient NFL offensive systems right off the bat, here.  

(04-04-2020, 08:03 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: At this point, the only reason I would want Tua over Burrow is that his name looks cooler on the back of a jersey. Burrow seems mundane compared to Tagovailoa. Oh well.

(04-04-2020, 04:40 PM)JerseyDD09 Wrote: 1. He wasn't "Good" for one year. He was "good" for 1 year in 2018 with a mediocre Offensive Coordinator and game plan. And, He was "The BEST EVER in College Football HISTORY" under a Pro style New Orleans Saints offense. An offense which Concepts and WR Tree route every NFL team bases their offense off of other than maybe Baltimore.
An offense that is perfectly suited for a Zac Taylor type offense, who runs 11 personnel more than any NFL team in the league last year at a 70% clip. Guess how many 3 and 4 WR sets the LSU offense YD????  A LOT!
If you understood basic football concepts such as this YD, you would never be questioning this draft pick since Burrow's Completion Accuracy was also over 73%, one of the best of all time.

2. He didn't start at OSU b/c in his Sophomore year, he got a fluke injury on his throwing thumb; and JT Barrett won the job and took off running all the way to the National title. OSU also doesn't run a pro style offense, more compatible for a JT Barrett or a Braxton Miller, without a WR tree route which most NFL teams run. Please tell me which OSU QB has succeeded in the NFL recently???

3. Shit is getting tiring debating with guys like you the basic concepts of Pro football, making arguments that hold no bearing whatsoever, with little evidence to show for it. Spitting out basic, generic sentences with no back up evidence whatsoever.

Lastly, even if you were correct that it was a 1 year wonder type of QB. I'd still take my chances with a guy like Burrow. Why?
1. His "One year wonder" theory by you and others was after all in the most ready Pro style league year after year in the SEC.
2. He did it against the best overall teams, winning more Top 20 games than anyone did and beating the best teams from every other league.
3. His list of teams he took down were:  AT ALABAMA (Do you know how hard that is YD)?, Georgia twice, Auburn (Best defense in College), Oklahoma, Clemson
4. He's a Coaches son, and he took every challenge on in regards to learning to the next level.
5. His competitive nature is already in the myths of Aaron Rodgers according to his teammates.
6. His throwing motion, accuracy and leadership qualities are compared to Tom Brady according to football analysts.
7. When you have a hands down Overall CONSENSUS #1 QB such as Burrow is, you can't pass him up if you're drafting #1. If you pass on him, and he goes on to greatness, the Franchise who passed on them would be hammered for years and years to come. It would be devastating even to a floundering franchise like our Bengals.

Please come at us with more evidence than the garbage you and Jmoore are spouting out. It's embarrassing.

(04-04-2020, 06:52 PM)Nately120 Wrote: The personnel yes, but ZT is still a huge question mark.  Remember, a  year ago we were hyped to see him resurrect Dalton and Ross and get out offense in the top 10 at least.  Like I said, it's entirely possible we go into 2021 excited as hell to see what Burrow can finally do with a real offensive coach, etc.  We have really been going back and forth on calling out the players OR the coaches when things don't go right.

2020 is setting up to be a sink or swim year for the coaches, just like 2018 was.