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RE: New DC hired? - Earendil - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 03:00 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Apparently spent the last 3 years as a Defensive Analyst for USC. So he certainly put in the time to take the next step.
That's awesome. Good for him!
RE: New DC hired? - rfaulk34 - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 11:10 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: dont care what the "scheme" may or not be ..players that are not athletic, smart and that dont hustle, etc will not be successful with any coach or any scheme that may or may not be utilized..furthermore..and specific to schemes .... no coach .. in the NFL..in this day and age.. has a scheme set in concrete..we see variations on a philosophy...get current
The vast majority of defensive players are considered how good they are because of the scheme they're playing in. A blanket statement of "try hard(er)" isn't going to do it. Everyone can't just do anything by simply trying harder. Athleticism is more helpful as well as being smart (football IQ). Dismissing scheme is a sure fire way of becoming a worse defense.
11 starters on defense X 32 teams = 352 guys. Add in their subs. Easily 600+ guys who get significant minutes on different defenses across the league. How many of those guys make All Pro and All Star? The vast majority of them need to be told where to be and when to be there.
Banket statements never work. You need a mix of good players and good schemes.
RE: New DC hired? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 03:00 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Apparently spent the last 3 years as a Defensive Analyst for USC. So he certainly put in the time to take the next step.
Cool, didn't know all of this. Good for Taylor Mays, always liked the guy, I just had far too high of expectations for him as a player.
RE: New DC hired? - Joelist - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 04:04 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The vast majority of defensive players are considered how good they are because of the scheme they're playing in. A blanket statement of "try hard(er)" isn't going to do it. Everyone can't just do anything by simply trying harder. Athleticism is more helpful as well as being smart (football IQ). Dismissing scheme is a sure fire way of becoming a worse defense.
11 starters on defense X 32 teams = 352 guys. Add in their subs. Easily 600+ guys who get significant minutes on different defenses across the league. How many of those guys make All Pro and All Star? The vast majority of them need to be told where to be and when to be there.
Banket statements never work. You need a mix of good players and good schemes.
Yep!
Remember Reggie Nelson? Horrible scheme and position fit in Jax. We acquired him and Zim put him at FS in his primarily Man scheme and the result was Nelson was an upper tier safety for us. Or how Justin Smith was not suited to be a 4-3 pass rush EDGE but SF took him and as a DE in their 3-4 he was a Pro Bowler? The list can go on and on and on.
I want to see what Golden (if it is him) plans to run because it could affect our offseason plans. For example, if he plans a more traditional 4-3 look then we will be looking for another starting LB (I would assume a MIKE in that case). We'll find out.
RE: New DC hired? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 04:04 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The vast majority of defensive players are considered how good they are because of the scheme they're playing in. A blanket statement of "try hard(er)" isn't going to do it. Everyone can't just do anything by simply trying harder. Athleticism is more helpful as well as being smart (football IQ). Dismissing scheme is a sure fire way of becoming a worse defense.
11 starters on defense X 32 teams = 352 guys. Add in their subs. Easily 600+ guys who get significant minutes on different defenses across the league. How many of those guys make All Pro and All Star? The vast majority of them need to be told where to be and when to be there.
Banket statements never work. You need a mix of good players and good schemes.
(01-22-2025, 04:17 PM)Joelist Wrote: Yep!
Remember Reggie Nelson? Horrible scheme and position fit in Jax. We acquired him and Zim put him at FS in his primarily Man scheme and the result was Nelson was an upper tier safety for us. Or how Justin Smith was not suited to be a 4-3 pass rush EDGE but SF took him and as a DE in their 3-4 he was a Pro Bowler? The list can go on and on and on.
I want to see what Golden (if it is him) plans to run because it could affect our offseason plans. For example, if he plans a more traditional 4-3 look then we will be looking for another starting LB (I would assume a MIKE in that case). We'll find out.
Nice posts. To ignore scheme is just plain stupid. Certain players fit or they don't, we have seen it forever in football.
RE: New DC hired? - rfaulk34 - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 04:20 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nice posts. To ignore scheme is just plain stupid. Certain players fit or they don't, we have seen it forever in football.
Which begs the question...has Easy E ever seen a football game?
RE: New DC hired? - pally - 01-22-2025
Sources: Notre Dame DC Al Golden is expected to become the Cincinnati Bengals next defensive coordinator. He’s informed Notre Dame officials of his decision. pic.twitter.com/IKjXJ1rTtE
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) January 22, 2025
Al Golden will arrive at the #Bengals facility to sign his deal tomorrow. The new #Bengals DC. https://t.co/EW0XYFAcZ8
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 22, 2025
RE: New DC hired? - SunsetBengal - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 06:30 PM)pally Wrote:Sources: Notre Dame DC Al Golden is expected to become the Cincinnati Bengals next defensive coordinator. He’s informed Notre Dame officials of his decision. pic.twitter.com/IKjXJ1rTtE
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) January 22, 2025
Al Golden will arrive at the #Bengals facility to sign his deal tomorrow. The new #Bengals DC. https://t.co/EW0XYFAcZ8
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 22, 2025
Alright, we have a DC!
New Defensive coordinator is being finalized - No-huddle Joe - 01-22-2025
Looks like we are finalizing Al Golden as being our new defensive coordinator.
RE: New DC hired? - Joelist - 01-22-2025
So it's Golden. Now we'll start finding out what he plans.
RE: New DC hired? - QueenCity - 01-22-2025
I know he was technically under Lou but you know these guys have their own opinions they are different people.
I'm willing to give Golden a shot (as if I have choice)
RE: New DC hired? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-22-2025
Happy the search is over and I think Al Golden will be an upgrade over Lou. The question is how much of an upgrade and also who he
brings in for DL coach which is the position coach I am most interested in now.
RE: New DC hired? - RunKijanaRun - 01-22-2025
Not a sexy or splashy hire, but he’s a solid, experienced coach who didn’t cut his teeth as defensive analyst for the US Coast Guard Academy’s Ultimate Frisbee Team.
RE: New Defensive coordinator is being finalized - Gohards - 01-22-2025
The guy who did a zero blitz on a 3rd and 14th with the national title on the line?
Welcome, Lou Golden. I mean Al
RE: New Defensive coordinator is being finalized - Fan_in_Kettering - 01-22-2025
Ohio State embarrassed Al Golden’s defense. Interview someone else!
RE: New Defensive coordinator is being finalized - pulses - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 07:13 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Ohio State embarrassed Al Golden’s defense. Interview someone else!
He's been hired according to Pete Thamel of ESPN
RE: New DC hired? - Synric - 01-22-2025
Jerry Montgomery is the new DL coach and Trey Brown is getting a second interview for the Jets GM job per Paul Dehner.
RE: New DC hired? - phil413 - 01-22-2025
Somewhere there's a crossover joke with Newman saying "We got Al Golden! Al Golden here!....nobody cares"
Hope he brings this defense to the next level (even if that is average)
RE: New DC hired? - pulses - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 06:57 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Happy the search is over and I think Al Golden will be an upgrade over Lou. The question is how much of an upgrade and also who heHe probably already has an idea of who he wants I would assume.
brings in for DL coach which is the position coach I am most interested in now.
RE: New DC hired? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-22-2025
(01-22-2025, 07:16 PM)Synric Wrote: Jerry Montgomery is the new DL coach and Trey Brown is getting a second interview for the Jets GM job per Paul Dehner.
I know nothing about Jerry Montgomery. Who has he coached?
(01-22-2025, 07:18 PM)pulses Wrote: He probably already has an idea of who he wants I would assume.
Evidently he does, this Jerry Montgomery who I know nothing about.
