(05-14-2024, 02:00 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

(05-21-2024, 08:30 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Do you remember that scene in Major League, where the grounds crew mutters "They still stink"? Seems fitting for the Reds right now.

(05-21-2024, 10:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: This team literally only wins when Elly carries them.

(05-21-2024, 10:12 PM)cinci4life Wrote: The pitching won it tonight though.

(05-21-2024, 10:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That and Elly’s RBI. One hit outside of him is pathetic though.

(05-21-2024, 10:34 PM)cinci4life Wrote: That wasn't the actual winning run.

(05-21-2024, 10:40 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re right, I forgot they were already up 1-0. Point still stands. He IS their offense. I’ve never seen such a bad hitting Reds team in my lifetime.

(05-21-2024, 10:40 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re right, I forgot they were already up 1-0. Point still stands. He IS their offense. I’ve never seen such a bad hitting Reds team in my lifetime.

(05-21-2024, 05:03 PM)samhain Wrote: I think sell mode is inevitable by the deadline.  I wonder if another big fire sale could bring back enough high-end prospects to Bob and Phil proof this team?  When exactly is peak value achieved?  

They have the number 2 pick in this year's draft by sheer luck.  They are going to lose a lot more games.  Certainly enough to get back into the lottery, probably with more of a chance at a good pick than they had this year.  

The most exciting thing this team does is rebuild with prospects.  Last year was the peak for this group.  Boras is not letting Elly sign here long term for cheap as Acuna did with Atlanta.  After this season, he'll want out anyway.  You could get a real haul for him right now.  Like one of the biggest returns in MLB history.  It would also save ownership from chopping their own balls off for 12 years like they did with the Votto deal.  

Greene is peaking.  If he continues, he's an easy sell.  His contract is reasonable, so teams should be interested.  On top of that you have Lowder, Phillips, and Petty rising through the ranks.  Pump and dump like Jordan freaking Belfort.  

We'd have so many prospects that they'd change the team name to the Cincinnati Bats before next season.  Judging by the current lineup, they might as well call them that now.

(05-22-2024, 10:54 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I personally wouldn't trade Greene with his team-friendly contract through the next few years. It would have to be a pretty damn good return to let him go.

Instead, I'd be looking to part ways with Candelario because he was really only brought in when McLain went down, and he's never been a good bat.
I don't want a $15 mill APY guy who isn't a good hitter, especially for the next 2 years after this year.
Candelario would need to boost his .672 OPS though over the next 2 months for some team to want to take him I guess lol.

Or maybe trade Ashcraft.
Reds have Phillips ready to come back up, and he could take Ashcraft's spot.

As much as I'd not like it, the two best hitters the Reds have trade-wise are EDLC and Steer.
Fans would be pissed, but those two would probably yield the best return.

(05-22-2024, 04:28 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: There's little to no trade value in guys like Candelario, India, and Benson. And quite honestly I'm not sure a fire sale and rebuild is what's needed? 

We're missing Friedl, McClain, Marte, and CES. It's just to early in their careers to throw in the towel. Elly is balling, Steer will recover (hopefully) 

What's need is new ownership and management. Somebody who doesn't live in the laptop stats and knows how to manage, Somebody who won't bench Fraley and bat a guy hitting .150 3rd.

But this season is already toast barring a miracle.

(05-22-2024, 08:30 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Terrible throw to the plate by India just cost them a run.

(05-22-2024, 08:36 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This is just unwatchable! Reds batters swinging at pitches that bounce across plate, a foot outside and just generally looking lost at the plate. There's zero confidence on this team.