(12-05-2023, 04:20 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Thus the reason I acknowledged his time at UM..... I mean seriously?  You missed that point?   UM AND the Bengals staffs simply underutilize a guy for 6 years? 

You cant be this naive.

(12-05-2023, 04:24 AM)NotBigzo Wrote: Are the Bengals the only professional football org that exists? Is Michigan the only CFB team in the nation?

No, there's dozens of the former and hundreds of the latter?

Nah, two organizations is a legit sample size. There's no way two organizations couldn't be misguided in their judgmenet of a player.

(12-05-2023, 04:09 AM)NotBigzo Wrote: He did enough to warrant more snaps, especially since we're weren't getting anything with exclusively Mixon.

Burkhead played here, but he was criminally underutilized. If Lewis has Burkhead split snaps with Hill after Gio got knocked out, we probably win that playoff game; but Marvin trusted a dinged up Hill over a healthy Burkhead. 

A Burkhead that would gain a more meaningful role in a SB offense.

(12-05-2023, 04:24 AM)NotBigzo Wrote: Are the Bengals the only professional football org that exists? Is Michigan the only CFB team in the nation?

No, there's dozens of the former and hundreds of the latter?

Nah, two organizations is a legit sample size. There's no way two organizations couldn't be misguided in their judgmenet of a player.

(12-05-2023, 04:28 AM)casear2727 Wrote: These are 2 major organizations that both care about winning and they will play their best players to do so.  You can be naive all you want (I use naive instead of stupid because Im in a happy place after our win, please dont blow it). 

Again if we could utilize Evans speed I'd be all for it but the guy isnt playing for a reason that neither of us know.  Except one of us knows there is a reason, the other (you) just think Michigan & the Bengals are too incompetent and should listen to you.

(12-05-2023, 04:28 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not sure what’s weirder? Being mad at Zac after a fantastic (offensive) win, or choosing Chris Evans of all people as your hill to die on.

(12-04-2023, 06:34 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’m just responding to your post. You were bemoaning that this was a Super Bowl season and we were first to worst in the division. You said is it not a stretch to question him on how the season was progressing? Again not having a better backup I’ve completely agreed with. We started 1-3 with two losses in the division. Obviously Joe’s injury contributed mightily. Progressing? You used that word.  Well we seemed to be progressing when we won 4 straight don’t you think including SF & the Bills? we rebounded from 1-3 to 5-3. Then we lost to a surging Texans who have won 4-5. Then Joe got hurt as we took the lead 10-7 over Baltimore. I’m not saying there weren’t issues. The defense wasn’t playing as well, the run game sucked, and something didn’t seem right despite Joe’s injuries early with the calf and then the wrist. The run game was not worth a crap and that’s with or without Joe. Trying to blame Zac for not scheming them better by some is a total cop out. Pollack hasn’t produced a run game worth a crap yet.

(12-05-2023, 01:33 PM)R3stangs Wrote: Jesus are you bored? Bemoaning a super bowl season by pointing out that those were the aspirations at the start of the season and now we're almost out of the playoff race? Thats just a fact. 

eh forget it. Im not wasting more time on this response. All I said was it wasn't completely illogical to question Taylors season. You disagree. We move on.

(12-05-2023, 04:28 AM)casear2727 Wrote: These are 2 major organizations that both care about winning and they will play their best players to do so.  You can be naive all you want (I use naive instead of stupid because Im in a happy place after our win, please dont blow it). 

Again if we could utilize Evans speed I'd be all for it but the guy isnt playing for a reason that neither of us know.  Except one of us knows there is a reason, the other (you) just think Michigan & the Bengals are too incompetent and should listen to you.

(12-05-2023, 02:04 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Sure, they care about winning; but that doesn't make their player assessments rights. In a world where we see players exceed expectations constantly, it's weird that you can say "Michigan and Cincinatti can't be wrong".

It doesn't take much to find players that proved orgs wrong at the collegiate and professional level. Boom, Baker Mayfield. Texas Tech and Cleveland were dead wrong about him.

(12-05-2023, 02:10 PM)casear2727 Wrote: It is amazingly weird that YOU think you know more than highly paid experienced coaches that have worked with Evans everyday for the past 9 years.

(12-05-2023, 02:20 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: I see better than I hear, and I see someone who has been productive in limited snaps.

This isn't someone who' made a complete ass of himself when he got a chance to play @ Arizona. It's someone who we've seen make plays when he's in, including a touchdown and a crucial pass block.

I can't look at this and an already putrid run-game and say "Chris Evans would just make it worse".

(12-05-2023, 02:33 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I don't think that this is a talent issue. 

For example, remember when Evans was eating in the preseason?  Had some long runs that were called back due to holding?  Each of those holding calls were on Evans for not hitting the proper hole when it was there and putting the linemen in a bad position.  We know they dont trust him to pass protect.  Who knows about his route knowledge?  There have been whispers that he still has trouble with the playbook.

IMHO, this is a mental thing, there may be other issues such as work ethic or attitude we are unaware of, but talent-wise?  The kid is extremely athletic with great hands. 

(12-05-2023, 02:44 PM)Wyche Wrote: It's almost like the guys that have coached him nine years see something detrimental that supercedes the athletic ability. I still don't think one game in five years is indicative of someone we need to force feed the ball. Especially after watching a rookie outdo what he's provided to this point. It's not much more complicated than that.

(12-05-2023, 02:44 PM)Wyche Wrote: It's almost like the guys that have coached him nine years see something detrimental that supercedes the athletic ability. I still don't think one game in five years is indicative of someone we need to force feed the ball. Especially after watching a rookie outdo what he's provided to this point. It's not much more complicated than that.

(12-05-2023, 04:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Gotta be a troll job at this point, lol. That's the craziest shit I've ever read, and that's saying something.

(12-05-2023, 03:14 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: You spend more time arguing with ghosts than you do actual people.