(07-15-2020, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: They screwed the pooch way back when Fauci came out and lied to people and told them not to wear masks, as they increase your likelyhood of contracting it because you will be touching you face more. Then he comes out and admits he said that just so people wouldn't hoard masks. Sorry Tony, your credibility went out the window with that one. Now people don't believe a thing you say. How many people contracted it because they were following your false advice?

So, here we are, with Governors placing "mandates" on the populace that they wear masks, and people are revolting. Here in KY, the Governor's Executive Orders all just got smacked down in court. They've handled this all wrong. Americans, by nature, will do what it takes to keep this country safe when asked. Americans, also by nature, do not like being told they HAVE to do something without whatever that is going through legislature. They should have first gotten their stories together so they aren't sending mixed messages, then focused on educating the public and appealing to people's sense of patriotism. And, they should have kept politics out of it instead of playing the constant "Gotcha" game. When it comes to "Mericans, you get more by asking that you do trying to force something. Don't believe me, ask King George.

(07-15-2020, 01:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Well said, Fauci was also saying it wasn't that bad a week or so before it really hit.

This dude is a raspy voiced little fraction of a man. Don't like him.

(07-15-2020, 02:49 PM)BrownAssClown Wrote: Well, I see this thread might not last much longer. As to why Dr. Fauci  didn't suggest the public wear mask early on was because their was a shortage of mask and he wanted the frontline workers at the hospitals to have an ample supply.

(07-15-2020, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: They screwed the pooch way back when Fauci came out and lied to people and told them not to wear masks, as they increase your likelyhood of contracting it because you will be touching you face more. Then he comes out and admits he said that just so people wouldn't hoard masks. Sorry Tony, your credibility went out the window with that one. Now people don't believe a thing you say. How many people contracted it because they were following your false advice?

So, here we are, with Governors placing "mandates" on the populace that they wear masks, and people are revolting. Here in KY, the Governor's Executive Orders all just got smacked down in court. They've handled this all wrong. Americans, by nature, will do what it takes to keep this country safe when asked. Americans, also by nature, do not like being told they HAVE to do something without whatever that is going through legislature. They should have first gotten their stories together so they aren't sending mixed messages, then focused on educating the public and appealing to people's sense of patriotism. And, they should have kept politics out of it instead of playing the constant "Gotcha" game. When it comes to "Mericans, you get more by asking that you do trying to force something. Don't believe me, ask King George.

(07-15-2020, 04:04 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: The remarks Fauci made you’re referring to comes from a 60 Minutes interview from March 8th when there were less than 150 new cases of Covid 19 in the US per day. Fauci qualified his statement with “right now” people didn’t need to wear a mask.  On July 10th, the US had over 66K new cases of Covid 19 just in one day. Do you think everyone should have worn a mask when there was less than 3 new cases per state per day?

As the situation changed so did the recommendations. People always want to ignore the “right now” qualifier when trying to make a point by misquoting Fauci and not providing the proper context. Fauci has consistently given more accurate and reliable information than the President himself every step of the way. Plus Fauci works for the guy who continues to try to down play it.

(07-15-2020, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote:  Americans, by nature, will do what it takes to keep this country safe when asked.

(07-16-2020, 10:09 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Remember when the sun was going to cure this thing? Maybe Christmas will cure it.

(07-16-2020, 09:30 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No they won't.

And nothing proves it more than the current "mask" situation.  

Even in the overwhelming majority of places where masks were optional the conservatives have refused to wear them for purely political reasons.

(07-16-2020, 10:20 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Please replace the word " the conservatives" with "idiots" and "political reasons" with "all sorts of stupid reasons".

(07-16-2020, 10:42 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Fwiw, I had to go three local Kroger last week to find an OTC medication for my dad.  The stores were Anderson, Mt. Washington, and Cherry Grove.

Here is how they ranked (from my perspective) in "mask participation" from worst (least % wearing masks) to best (most % wearing masks):

1.) Mt Washington. Less than 50% of people wearing masks.
2.) Cherry Grove. Majority wearing masks.
3.) Anderson. Overwhleming majority wearing masks.

For those who may not know, Anderson is by far the biggest store of these three.  It's also the nicest area of these three.  It also probably has the most conservatives of these three.  Cherry Grove and Mt. Washington are much more diverse stores.

What does this tell me?  This isn't necessarily a political issue.  Just because you see idiots on tv or the computer who are making it political doesn't mean that it's exclusive to them.  There's also idiots who make it a conspiracy issue, and who think Bill Gates wants to use mid control via vaccines and that 5G was created by an Illuminati Wizard from the planet Meltron.  There's also idiots who just don't care.

There are all sorts of idiots.  Please don't make the idiocy political.

(07-16-2020, 09:39 AM)Big Boss Wrote: They have a sign on the front door of my gym saying masks are required.  Guess how many people are actually wearing one.

People are making this a matter of principle ("You can't tell ME what to do!"), and it's frankly childish.  You're being asked to wear a paper mask when out in public.  It's not hard, and it's not asking too much.  Frankly, I'm finding that the anti-mask people on social media are being bigger babies about this than anyone.  My buddy's cousin posted 10 different memes within an hour and has been throwing a huge piss-fit since day one.  Over a mask.

The film industry is basically dead for the rest of this year, and I suspect football is going to follow.  So I'm about ready to just put myself in a medically-induced coma for the next 12 months.