(08-11-2021, 09:50 PM)tms Wrote: Not sure where you heard that. From another board:

"Tony Pike just came on 1530 (at camp today) and said what we have all heard a lot. The interior O line is getting destroyed over and over. Michael Jordan, Filo, Carman, Smith and others have looked terrible... Jackson Carman needed to repeat a hands drill 3 times because he was off on the speed and also he really only received a few reps at the very end of each drill."

Believe who you will. But this one's far more specific and even has a source.

Another one from the Enquirer yesterday (that most people have probably seen): 

"In one-on-one drills on Tuesday, Carman went up twice against defensive tackle Freedom Akinmoladun, who isn't projected to make the team. On his first rep, Akinmoladun got under Carman's pads and got to the quarterback under Carman's right arm. On his second rep, Akinmoladun shoved Carman straight back into the pocket... Fourth round pick D'Ante Smith also faced a defensive tackle who isn't projected to make the team in Renell Wren. Smith won both of his matchups."

(08-11-2021, 09:37 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Maybe, but Sewell also didn't play in a big conference or top competition. He dominated smaller school players and lower comp.

At least Carman played well against Chase Young as a Tackle.

(08-11-2021, 07:55 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Again my point it seems any mention of concern is played anti Team but Ross nope and we could really debate legitimate  pieces around Carman pick also that would be similar to Ross pick but if do the knives come out

(08-11-2021, 10:20 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: for example Marshall stats in his career stack up with Chase but no one put Marshall in top 10.

(08-12-2021, 12:15 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You're really starting to embarrass yourself by how butthurt you are about not drafting Sewell.

---Marshall had 1,594 yards and 23 TD's in THREE years at LSU.

---Chase had 1,780 yards and 20 TD's in a SINGLE season.

And you're wondering why no one had Marshall in the top 10 like Chase?  Seriously?

(08-10-2021, 01:54 AM)willieFANderson Wrote: Fate has always bitten Bengals in the behind when trading down - Tevin Jenkins, Liam Eichenberg, Walker little smh. I’m holding out hope for Jackson, will be interesting to see how the hit rate on those three turn out.

(08-10-2021, 12:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Most top ten picks that "bust" would still be able to hang on as a #3 WR. Ross was an epic failure.

I did not care for the pick because of his position. But I never thought he would be that bad of a player.

(08-12-2021, 12:15 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You're really starting to embarrass yourself by how butthurt you are about not drafting Sewell.

---Marshall had 1,594 yards and 23 TD's in THREE years at LSU.

---Chase had 1,780 yards and 20 TD's in a SINGLE season.

And you're wondering why no one had Marshall in the top 10 like Chase?  Seriously?

(08-12-2021, 01:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: This, plus Sewell from what I have been hearing has been struggling in Training Camp more than Carman or Chase have...

Sewell's pass protection has been bad and he is getting beat by lots of guy's first step. 

This was my concern with Sewell before the Draft. Will take time for him to jump to the NFL if this keeps up.

(08-12-2021, 01:26 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I wouldn’t agree with that, at least not as much as Carman. Carman is a third stringer on a team bereft of IOL talent. Most reports have Sewell described as “impressive” but he has had struggles in getting beat to the inside because he has a tendency to “set his weight to the outside”.

Really, Sewell is running into the same thing that Chase is likely running into. He is 20 years old, going against grown ass men and hasn’t played football in nearly two years.

(08-12-2021, 01:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Carman was starting the other day, that is old news, that depth chart means nothing now.

Carman just came in a little overweight and Pollack put him deeper on the depth chart cause of it. Wasn't cause of poor play.

Haven't heard anything as bad about Carman's play as Ends and Linebackers beating him on the pass rush all the time.

Some of these guys are backups beating Sewell. I don't care what you say, this was a concern before the Draft.

We all knew it. Chase is way ahead of Sewell. Carman will either start or be the first guy off the bench to come in at RG or RT.

(08-12-2021, 01:47 PM)Synric Wrote: I expect Jackson Carman and D'Ante Smith to play close to three full quarters Saturday. Saturday and the 20th is when they will earn their spot on the depth chart.

(08-12-2021, 01:51 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: The depth chart that was released three days ago is old news and means nothing because Carman played with the ones recently? Okay. If this makes you feel better, then go for it. It’s not an accurate representation of reality, though.

I’m hoping Carman is an All-Pro and Chase is a HoFer. I was completely on board with selecting Chase despite being a Sewell fan (Oregon Ducks fan). I just think it’s weird how you (and others) are trying to make it out like Sewell is performing worse than our second round G who couldn’t even show up to camp in shape.

Really, I can’t wait until we start seeing these players on the field. I think Chase and Sewell will be studs, but I’m skeptical of Carman. We’ll just have to see.

(08-12-2021, 01:51 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I just think it’s weird how you (and others) are trying to make it out like Sewell is performing worse than our second round G who couldn’t even show up to camp in shape.

(08-12-2021, 01:59 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: yea what the hell is that all about?

(08-12-2021, 01:57 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes, this is when you will know something.


That first depth chart that had Carman 3rd on the depth chart was like 2 weeks ago. I haven't been hearing Carman getting 
beat and playing poorly, have only heard about the weight issue. There is a list of guys beating Sewell and speaking of Penei
playing poorly in pass protection. What isn't accurate about that? Comes straight from the Lions.

It wouldn't surprise me if Carman once he gets the move to Guard down he becomes a stud.

I am skeptical of Sewell being a stud early on.

(08-12-2021, 02:01 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: That first depth chart that had Carman as a third stringer came out three days ago, on August 9th, not two weeks ago. Here is the article.

https://www.bengals.com/news/first-2021-bengals-depth-chart-has-michael-jordan-at-rg

(08-12-2021, 02:02 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: And it means nothing, Sewell playing poorly in pass protection means something.

(08-12-2021, 02:07 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: So, you didn’t even know what in the world you were talking about in regard to the depth chart and are just disregarding it because you feel like it? Alright. Lol.

Sewell has had struggles, but no one has classified him as playing “poorly”. Chase can be a stud. Sewell can be a stud. That’s fine. I’m not arguing that we should have taken one over the other. I’m just arguing that Sewell hasn’t struggled as much as Carman has. That’s okay, too. Carman had a back injury and is switching positions. I just think your argument is weird and comes off as wearing some major orange tinted glasses.

(08-12-2021, 01:59 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: yea what the hell is that all about?

(08-11-2021, 09:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Since when is Renell Wren not projected to make the team?

I think he will be at least the last DL we keep...