(08-12-2021, 02:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I heard Carman was starting here and there and the depth chart never means much at this time of year.

I tend to believe this and the reports from Lions camp on Sewell. You have Sewell/Oregon Duck colored glasses too dude.

You even admitted so.

(08-12-2021, 02:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not sure how he makes it barring some injuries.

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Highly doubt they'll keep 6 DTs. He'd probably have to beat out Shelvin who they just spent a 4th rounder on this year, so unlikely to cut.

I guess Wren could make it if they keep 11 DL, but I don't think that's the norm, and with the shaky health and depth of the T position, you probably need to go heavier there instead.

(08-12-2021, 02:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not sure how he makes it barring some injuries.

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Highly doubt they'll keep 6 DTs. He'd probably have to beat out Shelvin who they just spent a 4th rounder on this year, so unlikely to cut.

I guess Wren could make it if they keep 11 DL, but I don't think that's the norm, and with the shaky health and depth of the T position, you probably need to go heavier there instead.

(08-12-2021, 03:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: We only paid Mike Daniels $1.5 million.  He did not look good last year.  I think he is far from a lock to make the roster.

(08-12-2021, 02:31 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I admitted that I was a Sewell fan, because I am an Oregon Ducks fan. I thought he was the better pick, but I also loved the Chase pick. That’s why I’m not arguing Chase and Sewell. I’m arguing Sewell and Carman.

I think Chase will be a stud.

I think Sewell will be a stud.

I’m uncertain about Carman, and reports haven’t helped that. They certainly haven’t favored Carman.

(08-12-2021, 03:18 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not positive, but I don't think the Bengals normally give signing bonuses for 1 year FA deals for guys they aren't already leaning heavily towards keeping. 

I think Eli Apple is a better example of a guy they weren't sure on keeping when they initially signed. He didn't get a signing bonus but instead a roster bonus if he is there Week 1. Kavon Frazier, Trent Taylor, and Mike Thomas are also guys they signed in FA to 1 year deals with no signing bonus.

Evans, Daniels, B Allen, Harris, Huber, and Spain all got signing bonuses.

Mike Brown isn't a guy to throw a couple hundred K away on guys who aren't heavily favored to make the roster just a little while later.

(08-12-2021, 02:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Why in the hell are you guys ignoring Sewell's poor play in pass protection?

(08-12-2021, 02:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Not sure how he makes it barring some injuries.

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Daniels
Tupou
Shelvin
Wren

Highly doubt they'll keep 6 DTs. He'd probably have to beat out Shelvin who they just spent a 4th rounder on this year, so unlikely to cut.

I guess Wren could make it if they keep 11 DL, but I don't think that's the norm, and with the shaky health and depth of the T position, you probably need to go heavier there instead.

(08-12-2021, 02:31 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I admitted that I was a Sewell fan, because I am an Oregon Ducks fan. I thought he was the better pick, but I also loved the Chase pick. That’s why I’m not arguing Chase and Sewell. I’m arguing Sewell and Carman.

I think Chase will be a stud.

I think Sewell will be a stud.

I’m uncertain about Carman, and reports haven’t helped that. They certainly haven’t favored Carman.

(08-12-2021, 03:27 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Not to start another Sewell v Chase debate but my thoughts on why Sewell is looking great in drills and well in run blocking and struggling with pass protection is the exact same issue that has been seen with Chase dropping passes and not getting separation.

Both sat out a year and are going from college to no play to the NFL speed. It will take a little time to get used to it again. 

(08-12-2021, 03:35 PM)Synric Wrote: Late 2nd early 3rd quarters the interior line will likely be D'Ante Smtih - Trey Hill - Jackson Carman in a vanilla run heavy offense. That plays to Hill's and Carman's strength. I can see both have a big game Saturday.

(08-12-2021, 03:38 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: I just hope Carman's issues where it seems he was not in shape at the start of camp are related to his previous medical issues and not motivational issues.  That's a bad sign IMO if he was healthy but could not get himself in shape in time for training camp.  Don't get me wrong.  I'm 100% rooting for him to be a great player.   But the Bengals need highly motivated players.

(08-12-2021, 03:43 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Even if Sewell is struggling with pass pro, wouldnt it be nice to have a mauler on this line? Someone to help open up holes for Mixon to run through?

Jonah Reiff and Sewell all on this line wouldve been the ideal scenario.

(08-12-2021, 06:38 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I would say after reading messages after draft on Carman and most saying we will find a starter for this season in round 2 if Carman starts out 3rd guard that will be a major disappointment .

(08-12-2021, 03:19 PM)GodFather Wrote: The pick up at number one to me is contingent. If you go with Sewell, its obvious you have a lineman. If you go with Chase, then make sure you makeup the difference somewhere else to assure the offensive line will be in a much better place this year. 

 I love Chase and think hes going to be great with us, I also would've loved Sewell. So to me the big thing is what this front office DIDNT do enough of this offseason to address the offensive line. If your answer is Reiff and Carman, and Jackson is going to take time to develop, then you should've gotten a day one starter somewhere else be it the draft or FA.

(08-12-2021, 05:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't see it being motivational, Carman could of sat out late last season when he was injured but instead stayed and did his 
best to protect his QB while they went for a Championship. He was a good teammate and played through it even though it 
lowered his draft stock cause he wasn't even close to 100%.

(08-12-2021, 06:44 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Agree with that, he better be at least the first dude off the bench for the RG spot and both OT spots behind Reiff and Jonah.

XSF is an experienced vet that has played Guard in the NFL for years, if he beats Carman out it isn't so bad, but not Jordan ugh.