(04-10-2017, 12:09 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Would love the luxury of taking a WR high in draft as well.

But think we have much bigger problems than this and think only a late round flyer or two should be used.

AJ is AJ, believe Boyd will be improved greatly, LaFell is better than some give him credit for, being Erickson can contribute, Core could step up as well, and hopefully Eiffert will stay healthy for a change.

We have found WR's like Marvin Jones in fifth round before and would not take one before then. Would concentrate heavily on both Lines, LB, and RB early.

(04-10-2017, 02:26 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: On paper I would agree with you, but watching the offense last year when AJ went down was horrible.  It's obvious that we don't have another guy that can create any sort of matchup problems for defenses at WR.  I don't see Core as being that guy.

This isn't the old NFL, it seems like now the passing game opens up the running game.  I would think that if we had anohter legit threat at WR that teams would have a very hard time defending us even with our porous offensive line.

(04-10-2017, 02:26 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: On paper I would agree with you, but watching the offense last year when AJ went down was horrible.  It's obvious that we don't have another guy that can create any sort of matchup problems for defenses at WR.  I don't see Core as being that guy.

This isn't the old NFL, it seems like now the passing game opens up the running game.  I would think that if we had anohter legit threat at WR that teams would have a very hard time defending us even with our porous offensive line.

(04-10-2017, 04:21 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Give the WR's a break. After AJ last year you had a guy first year in the system and 3 rookies. If god forbid AJ went down again this year, I'd expect the passing game to be better this year than last, under this scenario.

Rumors are starting that Cleveland is shopping the first pick, I think it would be great if the Bengals could package picks and McCarron for Myles Garrett.

(04-09-2017, 10:07 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Not sure if posted already but did not notice it.  

Two different articles on CBS are suggesting the Bengals are trading up in 1st.

Mocking Bengals selecting DE Solomon Thomas with the 4th pick of the draft.

Would love for the Bengals to make a bold move like this. Especially if they move AJM for an extra pick to help replace picks traded.

Thoughts, would you do it or stay put ?

(04-09-2017, 10:31 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Think they were suggesting our 1st and a comp pick or two that we have acquired.

(04-10-2017, 04:48 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't think that would get it done, at least if anywhere close to the trade value chart.

Pick #5 = 1700 pts
Pick #9 = 1350 pts

A 4th comp is valued at 43-44 pts, 5th comp around 27 pts, 6th around 14 pts, 7th at just a point.
All comps combined: 44 + 27 + 14 + 1 = 86 pts.
Add that to 1350 and you're still over 250 pts short.

If the Bengals wanted to move up to #5 from #9 and not give up their 2nd rounder, they'd need to cough up their third rounder (225 pts) too to get close.
Is the 5th overall pick worth the #9, the third rounder, and every comp pick from 4 through 7?

I think if the Bengals were to move up, it'd only be to #7 at best. It costs too much to go beyond that.

(04-10-2017, 12:19 PM)Go Cards Wrote: It will be first time attending the draft party at PBS this year so hoping something unprecedented takes place.

(04-10-2017, 04:52 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: The mock draft on moving the chains had the Bengals giving up their 2nd rounder to get to the Jets spot.

You can throw out the draft trade chart when it comes to moving up in the top 10.  I would bet that any team from #2 on would take the Bengals 2nd rounder to switch spots.

The only guy that really would be worth trading up for would be Myles Garrett.  I would part with a 3rd rounder to move up to get Solomon Thomas, but outside of that, the draft is too deep to give up a 2nd or 2rd rounder - especially where we are drafting.

(04-10-2017, 04:58 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would trade the Jets AJM and our 1st for spot 6 if:

1. Thomas was available
2. Adams was available

Other than that, not sure it is worth it. I would rather move down a few spots and get a 2nd round pick if our guy is not there. At #9, I like Howard or Allen if they are still in play.

(04-10-2017, 04:52 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: How about our 3rd round pick for 2018? We will likely have a comp. pick or 2 due to Whittworth and Zeitler packaged with 3 2017 comp. picks? Is that closer?

(04-10-2017, 05:01 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I'm not sure what the future picks are worth, as the trade value charts I've seen only show current draft slots.

However, I always thought that the trade value of the next year equated to about a round later this year (e.g. 2018 3rd rounder = 2017 4th rounder), but no way to confirm or deny this.

(04-10-2017, 11:59 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Am fine if this happens as well. Really like Barnett but worries me that someone moves up at last minute and takes him. 

Have seen many Bengals targets go off the board in similar fashion. 

Like having extra pick as well and this is why I would move AJM. Still would be fine moving back "if" our targeted player is still going to be there. If not stay at 9 or move up.

We really need starters out of this draft somehow. But finding them is never a given.  

Would actually like to stay at 9 and trade up for a later first round pick and get Cam Robinson which would cost less and still trade AJM for an extra 2nd or a 3rd if it were me. 

Yet if they like someone enough to move up I would applaud the move as well. 

(04-10-2017, 05:04 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: Is the draft party open to the public or just season ticket holders?


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(04-10-2017, 05:01 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I'm not sure what the future picks are worth, as the trade value charts I've seen only show current draft slots.

However, I always thought that the trade value of the next year equated to about a round later this year (e.g. 2018 3rd rounder = 2017 4th rounder), but no way to confirm or deny this.

(04-10-2017, 02:26 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: On paper I would agree with you, but watching the offense last year when AJ went down was horrible.  It's obvious that we don't have another guy that can create any sort of matchup problems for defenses at WR.  I don't see Core as being that guy.

This isn't the old NFL, it seems like now the passing game opens up the running game.  I would think that if we had anohter legit threat at WR that teams would have a very hard time defending us even with our porous offensive line.