(05-12-2015, 01:49 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: I don't know how I feel about this. I don't think Brady will serve 4 games. I do think underinflation helped out more than we think. Not just with throwing but with carrying and even receiving. I also think they'll modify the rules to allow for some flexibility in PSI. It's what they want, QB's flinging the ball all over the field so why not allow them to use a comfortable ball in doing it?

(05-12-2015, 12:41 PM)BleedNBlackNOrange Wrote: Seems like you really have a thing for mr.brady . A suspension silly ? Mind you this is a team that consistently gets caught for cheating in one way or another. The fact that he went to Salem, ma and laughed it off irked me. If you didn't cheat then say it...in no way would I ever request the balls be deflated. He ruined the integrity of a game and i disagree about his performance in the Super Bowl...2 picks isn't that impressive to me. He did the crime and now he will pay with time. I promise you he won't win the appeal because he would have to produce his phone and emails in order to back his case which he already refused to do so good luck with that.

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Mmm....it's Troy Vincent not roger Goodell. And it is on the basis on two things...1. Failure to cooperate with the investigation 2. Patriots prior incidences of rule breaking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/here-s-what-the-nfl-told-the-patriots-and-tom-brady-in-its-letters-221835032.html;_ylt=A0LEVwr_H1JV4nMAy6_BGOd_

(05-12-2015, 12:41 PM)BleedNBlackNOrange Wrote: Seems like you really have a thing for mr.brady . A suspension silly ? Mind you this is a team that consistently gets caught for cheating in one way or another. The fact that he went to Salem, ma and laughed it off irked me. If you didn't cheat then say it...in no way would I ever request the balls be deflated. He ruined the integrity of a game and i disagree about his performance in the Super Bowl...2 picks isn't that impressive to me. He did the crime and now he will pay with time. I promise you he won't win the appeal because he would have to produce his phone and emails in order to back his case which he already refused to do so good luck with that.

(05-13-2015, 07:19 AM)Interceptor Wrote: Take away their Super Bowl and see if anyone else would even think of cheating after that.

(05-13-2015, 04:19 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: Brady not cooperating is one of the big issues
Certain precedents will be set, and watched carefully by all NFL players.
How much penalty will anyone get for not cooperating is the key.

For example, .. a player is suspected of shaving points. How much penalty will he get if he refuses to turn over his phone. To stonewall.

That's the issue right now with Brady. Imagine what MIGHT be on some of the messages. Possibly messages including Belichick or Kraft.

(05-11-2015, 07:19 PM)CincyProduct Wrote: Yep, liteally lied for no reason. And also the i will not give up my emails and text messages did not help either.

(05-13-2015, 07:19 AM)Interceptor Wrote: Take away their Super Bowl and see if anyone else would even think of cheating after that.

(05-14-2015, 04:00 PM)Lqhybrid25 Wrote: Two Things I've been thinking about since this whole Deflate Gate thing happened.

1. BJGE - Never fumbled in NE. Comes to Cincy and Fumbles four times.
Doesn't mean much but a deflated ball would be easier to hold and carry.

2. Bengals got trounced by the Patriots this past year. In fact you could say that the Bengals game vs. The Pats was very similar to the Pats vs the Colts.

Remember Chiefs vs Pats. Cheifs embarrassed them Media is all over the Pats and Brady for being done.
Next week Brady comes out and lights the Bengals up. Not saying they used deflated balls that game...but it makes you wonder. Did they? Was that why Brady had a massive resurrection that game?

(05-13-2015, 06:39 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: The biggest red flag for me is that after Wells found the text messages where McNally was calling himself "the deflator" he asked for another interview with McNally to question him about it.  Not only did Kraft deny the interview, he didn't even tell McNally about the request.  That speaks of huge organizational involvement, and not just Brady.  Then Kraft started this lie about how Wells had already interviewed McNally 4 or 5 times.  No, Wells interviewed him once.  NFL security had interviewed him prior to the Wells investigation, but that's not the same thing.  The Patriots org just reeks of corruption.