(05-03-2017, 03:28 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I can remember a time with Bengals boards (old one was brutal) fans ripped AD for getting out of bed. It is good to see a great young man get the respect he deserves as an NFL QB. Yes, he needs to win playoff games, bit I like him, I respect him and guys like him are great for the NFL and for our community.

I will go on a limb and say AD has his best year in 2017 and then bests that in 2018 if he can avoid injury.

(05-03-2017, 03:32 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I think it's partly that he was drafted 35th overall (something King mentioned as if it shows his talent level) and the fact that he came in with AJ Green drafted ahead of him. The perception ever since is that AJ Green is carrying a bad QB. Of course, the bad playoff games haven't helped Andy's case, and no one in the national media is going to look deeply enough at the Bengals to see that's more of a team wide issue under Marvin. It's much easier to just feed the "Dalton is mediocre" narrative.

(05-03-2017, 03:39 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Ah the old days of Mulligan and Cornerblitz. I'd say every obscure number and every facet of Dalton's game was gone over with a fine tooth comb back then. Fortunately, I think most people have come around on Andy these days. You still get occasional remarks about Andy needing weapons though, as if other QBs don't.

I think 2018 can be a career year if the o-line improves. We'll see, but I know I love when the passing game is firing on all cylinders. Hopefully Ross and Mixon get a real chance to earn starting jobs. It should be open competition with no loyalty. If it is, I think both will be starting from day one.

(05-03-2017, 03:39 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Ah the old days of Mulligan and Cornerblitz. I'd say every obscure number and every facet of Dalton's game was gone over with a fine tooth comb back then. Fortunately, I think most people have come around on Andy these days. You still get occasional remarks about Andy needing weapons though, as if other QBs don't.

I think 2018 can be a career year if the o-line improves. We'll see, but I know I love when the passing game is firing on all cylinders. Hopefully Ross and Mixon get a real chance to earn starting jobs. It should be open competition with no loyalty. If it is, I think both will be starting from day one.

(05-03-2017, 11:04 AM)Shady Wrote: I object to how the article treats Dalton as some kind of sub-par QB. That's clearly not the case IMHO. Otherwise, I'm glad someone can recognize the talent we drafted in the first two rounds for our offense. I'm curious to see just how quickly Malone might develop.

(05-03-2017, 04:26 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Call me what you want... but I for some reason find Josh Malone the eventual A.J. Green replacement..

Green is turning 29 in 2 months and will be 31 or 32 when his contract ends.. Malone has the size and speed to be that #1 receiver if Bengals don't resign A.J. in the future.

For f*cks sake, the man ran a 4.4 at the size of 6'3.

(05-03-2017, 03:39 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Ah the old days of Mulligan and Cornerblitz. I'd say every obscure number and every facet of Dalton's game was gone over with a fine tooth comb back then. Fortunately, I think most people have come around on Andy these days. You still get occasional remarks about Andy needing weapons though, as if other QBs don't.

I think 2018 can be a career year if the o-line improves. We'll see, but I know I love when the passing game is firing on all cylinders. Hopefully Ross and Mixon get a real chance to earn starting jobs. It should be open competition with no loyalty. If it is, I think both will be starting from day one.

(05-03-2017, 02:33 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's pretty clear the Bengals are going full spread offense this year and hoping the pass opens up the run.
Hope it works!

(05-03-2017, 05:03 PM)Joelist Wrote: Mulligan, Hammerthis and a couple of other trolls made the old board so unpleasant a lot of people just stopped visiting. Thankfully here we seem to have a better handle on how to handle that sort of stuff. 

(05-03-2017, 11:04 AM)Shady Wrote: I object to how the article treats Dalton as some kind of sub-par QB. That's clearly not the case IMHO. Otherwise, I'm glad someone can recognize the talent we drafted in the first two rounds for our offense. I'm curious to see just how quickly Malone might develop.

(05-03-2017, 11:37 AM)Wyche Wrote: That, and I don't know what college games this cat watched, but Cook is a dynamic pass catcher as well.  I mean, didn't he at least watch the Bowl game, and the over the shoulder catch 50+ yards downfield?  I seriously wonder about the credentials of some of these guys.....isn't SI the same bunch that wrote an article about piano man?

(05-03-2017, 04:26 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Call me what you want... but I for some reason find Josh Malone the eventual A.J. Green replacement..

Green is turning 29 in 2 months and will be 31 or 32 when his contract ends.. Malone has the size and speed to be that #1 receiver if Bengals don't resign A.J. in the future.

For f*cks sake, the man ran a 4.4 at the size of 6'3.

(05-03-2017, 05:29 PM)PDub80 Wrote: AD's line got him killed last year so it was impossible to build upon 2015's success.Which sucks because his 2015 showed he is capable of some great QB play.

Buuuuuut, big time players make big time plays in big time games. THAT is what separates the greats and the goods. It's why Joe Montana's in the Hall of Fame and Kenny Anderson isn't. If AD is a great QB... He'll play great and beat the greats. It's THAT simple.

When AD puts together a post season worth remembering I think that the national media, fans, etc. will start to lean the other way. I don't see anything wrong with that, either.

(05-03-2017, 05:33 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: Yeah I'm convinced most of these "experts" got their jobs because of nepotism or having friends in high places.  

(05-03-2017, 04:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't know why, but it still feels like he's only 25 years old.

(05-03-2017, 07:06 PM)Shady Wrote: Learning from AJ won't hurt him either. There's no doubt that the guys got skill, and a 4.4 is faster than AJ if I'm not mistaken. 

I remember the year he had in 2015 before the injury. I know, I know. He has to get at least a playoff win if not a ring. Still, the author of that piece insinuated that AD is sub-par. RThat's just not the case. Andy's a top 10 QB IMHO. 

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. In the past I think it was ESPN who assigned a writer to each division. The guy who wrote for them, I'm spacing his name, was pretty decent. And our local guys are pretty good. But then anything's better than MSNBC, CNN, and FoxNews when it comes to journalism. 

(05-03-2017, 10:15 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Even teams with Brady, Brees, and Rodgers do that also.

You need to have playmakers around your QB. Bottom line.

(05-03-2017, 11:04 AM)Shady Wrote: I object to how the article treats Dalton as some kind of sub-par QB. That's clearly not the case IMHO. Otherwise, I'm glad someone can recognize the talent we drafted in the first two rounds for our offense. I'm curious to see just how quickly Malone might develop.

(05-03-2017, 12:37 PM)Wyche Wrote: When you look at the numbers, and the tape, I don't see where he gets that?  I seldom miss an FSU game....I thought Peter King was supposed to be damn near infallible, so much for that.