(05-09-2017, 03:09 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Many Bengals fans are tired of defending this team's character concerns with "No charges ended up being filed" or "He was found not guilty".

It's all about initial perception nowadays.

(05-09-2017, 04:26 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Only the media fans who think media hype is more important than actual due process.

"We don't need no criminal justice system.  TMZ done told us he was guilty!"

(05-09-2017, 03:49 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: It's because they win Super Bowls. Sad but true. If we had a few Lombardi's, there's no way in hell we'd be a "thug enabling" team "that never learns". Winning truly does cure all, especially any negative perception

(05-09-2017, 01:40 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Most of Pacman Jones arrests happened prior to 2012 and happened prior to him being a Bengal.

Actually...most of the people we signed who had legal issues like Benson, Tank Johnson, etc...were mainly arrested while with other teams.

But...when you consistently bring in players who were arrested with other teams and refer to yourself as 'The Redeemer'...you get a perception among the media.

(05-09-2017, 12:50 PM)kdgjr Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-among-nfl-leaders-in-arrests-last-5-years/ar-BBAVxgb?li=BBnba9I




Perception vs. Reality

(05-09-2017, 03:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Aaron Hernandez wasn't found guilty yet of murder and he was cut by the Patriots within about a week of being arrested.
Most teams are not willing to let the legal system play out and want to avoid any negative publicity and perception of being an undisciplined team with criminals/thugs.

(05-09-2017, 03:44 PM)Au165 Wrote: They drafted the guy when everyone in the NFL knew he had gang ties to some seriously bad dudes while in college. He was actually rumored to be associated with a murder while in Florida. What is the worst part is they knew most of his ties were in fact from that area, and so they were putting him right back in the fold. The Patriots shouldn't get a free pass on the Hernandez thing, but they do  by most. To put it in perspective, his off field issues were so well known the Bengals and the Colts actually removed him from their draft boards completely.

(05-10-2017, 01:09 PM)grampahol Wrote: Pretty close to 90% or more of the population breaks laws every single day. Don't believe that? Drive on the freeway in rush hour traffic and just TRY to not go over the posted speed limit. 
That's right folks..if YOU are driving 56 mph in a 55 mph zone you to are a CRIMINAL!  They should ban ALL fans from stadiums who have EVER so much as been caught chewing gum in class! You bleeding heart 2nd chancers should all be taken out and beaten daily and twice on Sunday! And just to show what an upstanding citizen I want to be I'll get in the front of the daily beating line EVERY DAY..either that or I'm leaving the country ASAP.. 

(05-10-2017, 12:31 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: If not for 2006 (10 arrests that year alone), I have to wonder what our reputation would be like today. We were never able to shake that label, and once we signed Pacman Jones, it ensured that the label would stay for many more years regardless of arrest totals. Making a big playoff run may get us some respect from local/national media, but short of that, the Bengals being "thugs" is going to be the narrative. What else is interesting about the Bengals? Marvin Lewis returning for his 15th season? Mike Brown being Mike Brown?

(05-10-2017, 01:34 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We actively brought in guys like Benson, Jones, Henry, and Tank Johnson who were arrested too.

Probably when Marvin moves on and Jones leaves which could coincide...our reputation might change some.

Like it or not...it's attached to Marvin.

(05-10-2017, 04:38 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It does.

Lets face it...when you don't win a playoff game in 26+ years you make yourself a target for the media criticism.

The whole Ochocinco/TO circus too.