(09-13-2017, 12:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Fire Marvin at the end of the year or before the year is over. I don't care.

Fire Ken Zampese at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Fire Paul Alexander at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Find competent coaches to replace them.

Trade Andy Dalton for a package of draft picks and competent offensive lineman at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Trade for Andrew Luck in the off season. There are rumors that he wants out. Offer the Colts 2 or 3 first round picks for him. I dont care. Just get him.

Completely rebuild the offensive line in the off season much like the Vikings did this year. Rebuild it through the draft, free agency, Dalton's trade pickups, whatever it takes. Hell, spend the first 5 picks of the draft next year drafting prospects.

If this all happens then the Bengals will be a Super Bowl winning team. The path is there. Good ownership and a good front office could get it done.

(09-13-2017, 05:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Luck has been the victim of being on a REALLY bad team the past 3 years of his career. He has had one of the worst offensive lines in the league and has no weapons to work with. 

(09-13-2017, 12:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Fire Marvin at the end of the year or before the year is over. I don't care.

Fire Ken Zampese at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Fire Paul Alexander at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Find competent coaches to replace them.

Trade Andy Dalton for a package of draft picks and competent offensive lineman at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Trade for Andrew Luck in the off season. There are rumors that he wants out. Offer the Colts 2 or 3 first round picks for him. I dont care. Just get him.

Completely rebuild the offensive line in the off season much like the Vikings did this year. Rebuild it through the draft, free agency, Dalton's trade pickups, whatever it takes. Hell, spend the first 5 picks of the draft next year drafting prospects.

If this all happens then the Bengals will be a Super Bowl winning team. The path is there. Good ownership and a good front office could get it done.

(09-13-2017, 12:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Fire Marvin at the end of the year or before the year is over. I don't care.

Fire Ken Zampese at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Fire Paul Alexander at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Find competent coaches to replace them.

Trade Andy Dalton for a package of draft picks and competent offensive lineman at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.

Trade for Andrew Luck in the off season. There are rumors that he wants out. Offer the Colts 2 or 3 first round picks for him. I dont care. Just get him.

Completely rebuild the offensive line in the off season much like the Vikings did this year. Rebuild it through the draft, free agency, Dalton's trade pickups, whatever it takes. Hell, spend the first 5 picks of the draft next year drafting prospects.

If this all happens then the Bengals will be a Super Bowl winning team. The path is there. Good ownership and a good front office could get it done.

(09-13-2017, 04:59 PM)JumboTron Wrote: If you enjoy watching your QB stand on the sideline in a hat, T-shirt and shorts while wearing an ear-peace, then yeah, Andrew Luck would make sense I guess.

(09-14-2017, 07:21 AM)bengaltruth Wrote: I agree with the firings, Marvin Lewis would make a excellent GM, I love the young players brought in. I would welcome Luck for Dalton and a 1st round pick easily (ignore the hypocrites). However, we can win the Superbowl with Dalton as long as he has a Offensive coordinator who will challenge him ala Hue Jackson. Marvin cannot coach a lick, at this point he is doing more harm than good (He punted down 20 with 9 min left, dumb super dumb). Give Jim Harbaugh the keys, 8 million a year and we will win it all.

(09-14-2017, 07:21 AM)bengaltruth Wrote: I would welcome Luck for Dalton and a 1st round pick easily (ignore the hypocrites). However, we can win the Superbowl with Dalton 

(09-13-2017, 12:25 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Take over the FAA and orchestrate the other 31 team planes to simultaneously collide in one giant fireball. The season this year would be cancelled, but eventually they'd have to start back up, and the Bengals would have the only team anywhere close to NFL talent level. Win about 2-3 SBs in a row until all the other teams catch back up in the personnel department.

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Also, seriously? Andrew Luck? The guy has a losing record outside of the AFC South, and is constantly injured these days. His career is also statistically inferior to Andy Dalton's thus far, and that's not even accounting for his current shoulder injury that's keeping him out until at least October.

He also has cap hits of $24.4m in '18, $27.525m in '19, $28.4m in '20, and $21m in '21. Trading for him, let alone for 2-3 first round picks would be a silly idea.

Side Note: He had a 36.4% completion, 126 yards (3.8 AVG), 0 TD/2 INT, 23.0 QB Rating game in the postseason against the Patriots. The only playoff game where he's looked really good was against the Bengals, where even TJ Yates and Mark Sanchez look good. He has a 9 TD/12 INT in his postseason career. The Bengals game is the only postseason game where he hasn't thrown an INT (1 TD/0 INT). He has multiple INT in 4 of his 6 postseason games, or 4 of his 5 non-Bengal games.

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You also forgot the biggest problem with every single one of those moves on your list. Mike Brown.

(09-14-2017, 09:11 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You know, I used to think that, but I have my misgivings now. He is way too content with retaining mediocre starters whose only merit is that they are a known quantity. We saw it with Robert Geathers, we see it with Michael Johnson, we saw it with Leon Hall when he was struggling after surgeries, Cedric Benson and Benjarvus Green-Ellis both overstayed their productivity as starters.

He also just doesn't seem like a very good gauge of talent. I mean, this is the guy who called Darqueze Dennard the "best rookie corner I have ever seen" four years ago and he just made his 5th start last week and got beat for a TD. He kept a roster spot for years for people like Ryan Whalen and Margus Hunt.

I just don't see it. His acceptance of mediocrity is unacceptable in a GM. I want a GM who is only aiming for Championships, not "some good things, and some things we need to work on". That kind of attitude would permeate the entire organization like it already has with him as a HC. Need to burn, bleach, and powerwash that mediocre stench from the organization entirely, or it'll never truly stop stinking up the teams.

Once Mike Brown is gone, this team could use a good scorched earth/clean slate with all of their people from top-to-bottom. Just a 100% fresh start. It's likely not going to happen, though.

(09-13-2017, 12:06 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Fire Marvin at the end of the year or before the year is over. I don't care.
He has gotten better.  Last year we could not save a time out till the end of the half or game.  This year we been saving them.  

Fire Ken Zampese at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.
Offence looked lost tonight.  Green and andy had a hard time connecting.   Two passes to Green and it looked like he was blocking the defender?  Might have seen it wrong  Drowning my sorrows in liquid refreshment.  But if them two cant get on the same page Houston, we might have a problem.

Fire Paul Alexander at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.
Over due


Find competent coaches to replace them.
That cost money!  The Brown family has to eat!!  

Trade Andy Dalton for a package of draft picks and competent offensive lineman at the end of the year or before the year is over. I dont care.
Sounds good to me.  A few years too late.  He telegraphs passes, his progression is AJ, AJ, AJ, O crap.  Folds under pressure. 

Trade for Andrew Luck in the off season. There are rumors that he wants out. Offer the Colts 2 or 3 first round picks for him. I dont care. Just get him.
Good luck with this.  I would think he would want to go to a team that can protect him and a owner that wants a superbowl.

Completely rebuild the offensive line in the off season much like the Vikings did this year. Rebuild it through the draft, free agency, Dalton's trade pickups, whatever it takes. Hell, spend the first 5 picks of the draft next year drafting prospects.
Marv and crew had a feeling last year that our O line sucked.  So to improve it, they let the on 2 good linemen we had go. Looked for no one in free agency.  Did not coach up the remaining O line.  So I am sure this line will be better next year with no changes.

If this all happens then the Bengals will be a Super Bowl winning team. The path is there. Good ownership and a good front office could get it done.

Who-Dey.  Now its on to kick Packers Butts.   :andy:

Cant wait until next year with Zampese as Head Coach.  Going to be a wild ride.

(09-13-2017, 12:12 PM)PhilHos Wrote: 2 problems.

1) Finding competent coaches is hard for GOOD teams with GOOD GMs to do.
2) Andrew Luck? You want to get rid of a QB in Dalton with a career 88.3 QB rating and get one with a career QB rating of 87.3 (that's not counting this year's games)? Why? AND spend multiple first round picks? What the hell are you smoking?