(10-03-2017, 03:06 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Andy spread the ball around more and used the TE like a TE is supposed to be used.  Let’s not kid ourselves though, whether or not you are a Dalton hater or apologist, we all know Dalton has shown he can have great games.  He’s also shown that when he’s off, he’s really really off.  His entire professional career his biggest complaint is his consistency.  Can he string enough good games in a row to take us to the show and win it all?  Color me not impressed that Dalton lit up a team that has 1 win in the last 20 regular season games...the only team the NFL shits on more than us.  But I guess if Joe Flaaco can win a Super Bowl anybody can.

(10-02-2017, 05:51 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: You're very observant.  It's a totally different technique taught in Pittsburgh which includes lots of uncalled holding.

(10-02-2017, 06:57 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I only watched the highlites lastnight and I was thinking, look at Bodine and Johnson out front of Gio. Then I saw the defender coming and Bodine grab him and swing him down. I was laughing hard because I couldn't believe we did get flagged for it!! Only in Cleveland!!

(10-03-2017, 05:09 AM)The Caped Crusader Wrote: His MVP season I don't think he had a 'bad bad game'. The last two years can easily be attributed to Zampese. The guy is massively at fault.

(10-03-2017, 02:28 AM)CanadianBengal Wrote: He struggles with the deep ball 

(10-03-2017, 03:06 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Andy spread the ball around more and used the TE like a TE is supposed to be used.  Let’s not kid ourselves though, whether or not you are a Dalton hater or apologist, we all know Dalton has shown he can have great games.  He’s also shown that when he’s off, he’s really really off.  His entire professional career his biggest complaint is his consistency.  Can he string enough good games in a row to take us to the show and win it all?  Color me not impressed that Dalton lit up a team that has 1 win in the last 20 regular season games...the only team the NFL shits on more than us.  But I guess if Joe Flaaco can win a Super Bowl anybody can.

(10-03-2017, 03:06 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Andy spread the ball around more and used the TE like a TE is supposed to be used.  Let’s not kid ourselves though, whether or not you are a Dalton hater or apologist, we all know Dalton has shown he can have great games.  He’s also shown that when he’s off, he’s really really off.  His entire professional career his biggest complaint is his consistency.  Can he string enough good games in a row to take us to the show and win it all?  Color me not impressed that Dalton lit up a team that has 1 win in the last 20 regular season games...the only team the NFL shits on more than us.  But I guess if Joe Flaaco can win a Super Bowl anybody can.

(10-03-2017, 01:05 PM)Stonyhands Wrote: He had a bad game against Houston.  He had another bad game against Pittsburgh even though we won and he was most likely headed for a bad second game against Pittsburgh as the interception he was hurt on he threw right to the defender on a screen play down by the goal line.

(10-03-2017, 01:17 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Why is this still a thing? Yeah, ok, this year, he's struggled with it, but most of his career Dalton has been one of the best in throwing the deep ball.


Your opinion might have more merit if you didn't bash Dalton with unreasonable and unfactual claims every chance you get.

(10-03-2017, 01:17 PM)WiregrassBenGal Wrote: Andy is a tough kid and I have always liked him. He needs some protection like what you guys were talking about because he can shred the other teams when he does. The other point is I worry about him getting hurt.

(10-03-2017, 09:37 PM)Joelist Wrote: He does have pocket presence; the problem is the OL is so bad that he either bails fast or gets hit. Lazor has helped but his clock is still running fast from the beating over the last roughly 20 games.

(10-03-2017, 09:39 PM)Stonyhands Wrote: Ok, so for people who think Andy is not the problem....let’s make a wager.  I’ll disappear off these boards forever if/when Dalton wins a playoff game...anywhere, doesn’t even have to be in Cincinnati.  If he doesn’t bring us a playoff win by the time we start a new QB you have to acknowledge you were wrong and I was right in your sig for the rest of the time that you post on this forum.

(10-03-2017, 09:39 PM)Stonyhands Wrote: Ok, so for people who think Andy is not the problem....let’s make a wager. I’ll disappear off these boards forever if/when Dalton wins a playoff game...anywhere, doesn’t even have to be in Cincinnati. If he doesn’t bring us a playoff win by the time we start a new QB you have to acknowledge you were wrong and I was right in your sig for the rest of the time that you post on this forum.

(10-03-2017, 09:26 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Andy’s a fine QB. I’ve supported him since he was drafted. I liked him before we drafted him & was ecstatic we landed him. He continues to prove the haters wrong.

I like gunslingers. While he may not be a prototypical gunslinger, he does have some of it in him.

My only real complaint about him, and I’ve been saying this for three or four seasons now, is that he tends to bail on his protection prematurely as well as lacks pocket presence ie doesn’t re establish the pocket or move it around.

Most of the haters have no idea what they’re talking about. They think he can’t throw deep when in reality he’s one of the best. He’s also as good as Rodgers in Hail Mary plays, but often is omitted from the discussion (AJ could be the factor here, of course). Nevertheless, he’s completed a fair amount of HM’s. He’s also one of the better running QB’s in the league but gets over looked. Even one of the announcers mentioned his lack of running ability, which couldn’t be further from the truth.

He may not be able to carry a team on his own, but very few have.

Andy doesn’t deserve much of the criticism he receives.

(10-03-2017, 10:38 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Dalton is the exact opposite of a gunslinger. He's too careful most of the time. I don't think I've ever seen a QB throw it away as much as him. I wish he would give AJ (and others) a chance to make a play once in awhile instead of atomically throwing it out of bounds if the play breaks down.