(10-12-2017, 08:17 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Bengals stated he should contribute by year 2020 if he stays healthy

(10-12-2017, 08:00 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I honestly have no idea. Here's speculation:

IF I had to guess, based on just seeing him run reverses and getting yanked after a fumble...I'd think that he's having trouble learning the playbook and knowing where to be. Marvin's vague comment at the start of the thread about him needing a lot of practice time could be telling.

It could be other things too. Maybe he's not adjusting to NFL life well. Maybe he's missing easy passes. Maybe it's nerves. It's hard to say.

I really have no clue...but him getting yanked after his fumble and them relying on Erickson was strange. Then he gets injured right after that so he can't play??? Seems like they wanted to take him out of action for whatever reason.

Then again...maybe it's just the injuries although there was a report that he was sore and nothing structurally wrong.

(10-12-2017, 11:18 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: So you think he's another Jerome Simpson? Remember how Lap said Simpson basically had no clue what he was doing? He was basically useless for 1.5 years because he couldn't run routes properly and maybe didn't even know the playbook.

I sure hope that's not the issue, but it does seem fishy that he's been used mostly on reverses. He was praised for his route running in college, so I doubt it's that, but the size of the playbook could be a problem for him.

Or if could be a myriad of other things. Maybe falling asleep in meetings. Who knows? We could be overreacting.

(10-12-2017, 07:29 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Interesting theory. 

(10-12-2017, 11:31 PM)Synric Wrote: Tyler Boyds comments about how overly complicated Zampese's offense was comes to mind.


Combine that with Ross not able to take part in OTAS because of the silly NFL rules and then very little practice in training camp. Throw in a coordinator switch 2 games into the season. I think all that has alot to do with Ross riding the pine.

(10-12-2017, 11:31 PM)Synric Wrote: Tyler Boyds comments about how overly complicated Zampese's offense was comes to mind.


Combine that with Ross not able to take part in OTAS because of the silly NFL rules and then very little practice in training camp. Throw in a coordinator switch 2 games into the season. I think all that has alot to do with Ross riding the pine.

(10-12-2017, 11:47 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: I think you're right, but Ross is the speed guy meant to take the top off the D. How hard is it to learn: Just run as fast as you can toward the end zone.....Deep fade/corner/post.....that's it. Even if he can't grasp the whole thing, just running those 3 routes 10-15 times a game would be enough for now.

(10-13-2017, 12:03 AM)Joelist Wrote: They need to either IR him or get him in games. He does nothing for us not playing (which will be how many first rounders now we get nothing out of in their rookie seasons?).

(10-12-2017, 08:00 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I honestly have no idea. Here's speculation:

IF I had to guess, based on just seeing him run reverses and getting yanked after a fumble...I'd think that he's having trouble learning the playbook and knowing where to be. Marvin's vague comment at the start of the thread about him needing a lot of practice time could be telling.

It could be other things too. Maybe he's not adjusting to NFL life well. Maybe he's missing easy passes. Maybe it's nerves. It's hard to say.

I really have no clue...but him getting yanked after his fumble and them relying on Erickson was strange. Then he gets injured right after that so he can't play??? Seems like they wanted to take him out of action for whatever reason.

Then again...maybe it's just the injuries although there was a report that he was sore and nothing structurally wrong.

Marvin Lewis Wrote:“He’s not been out with the football team enough,” Lewis said Monday. “He needs a lot of time and a lot of practice. That’s important. That’s probably as important than getting back healthy where he can begin to practice football again. He needs that. We have to get back to that point first.”

(10-13-2017, 12:52 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: LaFell looks washed up.

(10-13-2017, 01:04 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Andre Smith
Kirkpatrick
Dennard
WJax
Ogbuehi
Palmer
Chris Perry
Keith Rivers (Hines broke his jaw in 7th game)

(10-12-2017, 11:18 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: So you think he's another Jerome Simpson? Remember how Lap said Simpson basically had no clue what he was doing? He was basically useless for 1.5 years because he couldn't run routes properly and maybe didn't even know the playbook.

I sure hope that's not the issue, but it does seem fishy that he's been used mostly on reverses. He was praised for his route running in college, so I doubt it's that, but the size of the playbook could be a problem for him.

Or if could be a myriad of other things. Maybe falling asleep in meetings. Who knows? We could be overreacting.

(10-12-2017, 11:32 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: It's not so much a theory as it is an observation. 

There's certain Bengal users I follow on Instagram, and a couple of them have been preaching that Ross is not actually hurt since the Houston game ended. I have no clue who these users are but I believe they are tied closely to the organization somehow. They are followed by a lot of high profile Bengal players, and several of those players "liked" an image where they ranted on how the team was f***ing Ross over.

I was very skeptical at first but the longer this draws out and the more Marv says on the subject... I now fully believe Marv is keeping Ross out for reasons that aren't being reported

(10-13-2017, 10:09 AM)treee Wrote: I was under the impression that he was the most complete WR in the draft, so I don't see how him not grasping the fundamentals would keep him out when other teams have success with less polished WRs. I don't see how it can be anything other than injury.

(10-13-2017, 10:30 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: That's my gut feeling. I don't think he's injured as last I heard there was no structural damage and he was sore.

We have to be the worst team in the NFL at getting value from our 1st Round picks in Year 1.

PM me some of these Instagram accounts. I'd like to follow them.