(11-07-2017, 05:46 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: I hope that is his logic so I can ask, "Hey Tom, in The Last Boy Scout, that guy shot like 10 people on the field and they didn't throw a flag. Do you think that's within the rules?"

(11-07-2017, 05:32 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Coughlin's statement seems more about defending his own player, rather than going after AJ.

"I want to voice my support for Jalen Ramsey following the incident in our game on Sunday," Coughlin said in a statement. "Our players are instructed to not retaliate or get involved or do anything that would result in eviction because that would hurt the team. Team comes first, and Jalen was trying to not hurt his team. While he did push his opponent — something that happened with other players during the game — he did not retaliate, he threw no punches, and he did not fight back.

"Jalen was doing what Coach (Doug) Marrone has instructed him to do — which is to play tough, be physical and to make every play difficult for his opponent. There was banter going back and forth during the game, but Jalen was playing football within the rules."

Having said that, I'll still take AJ's word about Ramsey's cheap shots.

(11-07-2017, 09:51 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Ok, I'm just going to put this out there and I'm sure you will all come to the defense of AJ.

The JAX dude played a good game within the rules and was blanketing AJ. The shove was after the play, but come on people, that was hardly a 'fight initiating push'. If you guys think that was dirty, then Burfict deserves every last suspension he gets.

Dude may have been talking trash, but that isn't illegal, and everything else I saw in the game was within the rules. Refs weren't calling hands to the face, but that isn't Ramsey's fault.

I don't think the Ramsey guy deserves any grief for playing a physical game.

AJ is an elite player who goes full throttle every play. Opposing CBs have seen that being rough with AJ is the best way to stop him. AJ should be good enough/veteran enough to deal with it.

AJ Overreacted, big time.

(11-07-2017, 09:57 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: No argument there.  But according to the refs, Ramsey had already been warned in the game and was in fact flagged and ejected for instigation.  It was more than just talking trash.

(11-07-2017, 05:32 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Coughlin's statement seems more about defending his own player, rather than going after AJ.

"I want to voice my support for Jalen Ramsey following the incident in our game on Sunday," Coughlin said in a statement. "Our players are instructed to not retaliate or get involved or do anything that would result in eviction because that would hurt the team. Team comes first, and Jalen was trying to not hurt his team. While he did push his opponent — something that happened with other players during the game — he did not retaliate, he threw no punches, and he did not fight back.

"Jalen was doing what Coach (Doug) Marrone has instructed him to do — which is to play tough, be physical and to make every play difficult for his opponent. There was banter going back and forth during the game, but Jalen was playing football within the rules."

Having said that, I'll still take AJ's word about Ramsey's cheap shots.

(11-07-2017, 09:41 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Interesting.  Why did 3-6 Jags players come flying in and drill AJ in the back when he was on top of your boy, Tom?  Those actions, by definition, are getting involved and retaliating.  I guess many of the team didn't get the message.  Additionally, Jalen was flagged for his actions as well, thus he was not playing football within the rules.  What's your next lie, Tom?  Guys showing up to a 9:00 meeting at 9:00 are late?

(11-07-2017, 08:52 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: Hmmm, never thought about arming Andy as a solution.  That's one way to stop the pressure up the middle, am I right, Paul?  

(11-07-2017, 10:02 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Is this a thing? Feel like Burfict would get ejected weekly if this were true.

EX: Barking in Steelers' Nix's face after blowing him up on a run... seems like instigating things!

(11-08-2017, 11:50 AM)Sled21 Wrote: The instigation was the shove to the ground from behind after the play, not the trash talking.

(11-08-2017, 11:53 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Apparently, a shove to the back when you're not looking hard enough to knock you to the ground after the play is over, that's perfectly acceptable to GreenCornBengal.

(11-08-2017, 01:36 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Here's another way to look at it.  If you are walking down the street and someone pushed you from the back to the ground would you not retaliate?  Ramsey is nothing but a punk and he said something unacceptable to AJ Green.

(11-08-2017, 01:48 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I read a couple of places of what supposedly Ramsey said, but it can't verified. If true though, I would have killed this punk on the spot myself.

(11-08-2017, 01:51 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: A fan supposedly heard Ramsey say something regarding AJ Green's wife.  It wasn't just trash talking Ramsey made it personal.  The alleged fan was in the front row and supposedly could hear the conversations between plays.

(11-07-2017, 10:02 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Is this a thing? Feel like Burfict would get ejected weekly if this were true.

EX: Barking in Steelers' Nix's face after blowing him up on a run... seems like instigating things!

(11-08-2017, 01:58 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm not buying that either. While the "supposed fan" may have been in the front row, that is still a good distance from the playing field, and I don't believe he could hear what two players on the field who are wearing football helmets with facemasks are saying to each other over the crowd noise. While I totally buy that Ramsey was saying something vile, and it probably was about AJ's family, I don't buy for an instant that someone in the stands heard it......

(11-07-2017, 07:29 PM)kevin Wrote: I'll say what I would have said if any player on any other team had did it.  AJ Green acted like a Thug, a Mug, a Pug, a Criminal.  AJ Green normally is not like this.  I guess everybody has their bad moments.  The only defense for AJ Green is it is a first time as far as I know.  It's not like he acts this way every week.  Maybe his first offense will keep him from getting suspended longer.   AJ Green should be ashamed of himself.  He did not live up to his team leader role in this game.  I really can't say much for Bengals fans who saw it and come to the defense of AJ Green just because he is on the Bengals.   My hope is this is a one time incident and not a new direction AJ Green is going in, because the direction is downhill.  My hope is AJ Green regrets losing his mind on that play, and returns to being a team and NFL leader of higher and better standards of play.   He is better than this.   I certainly will not support or defend his actions on that play, but I do hope it is a one time thing and he learns from it and gets back to the decent player and team leader he has normally been.  I know some fans think our Bengals should be allowed cheap plays, but I am not one of them.  I have a feeling AJ Green is becoming frustrated with how bad this team has became. He never played for THE BUNGLES.  Other players in the past became frustrated on and off the field when the team became THE BUNGLES.   This is no excuse though, and I hope AJ Green returns to being a decent player and team leader.  I know he has been becoming frustrated with how bad THE BUNGLES are, but he is better than his actions Sunday.  There is no defense for AJ Green Sunday.