(11-20-2017, 04:27 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nailed it.

We are the most passive blocking team in the entire NFL and this is our biggest problem.

We need to get an aggressive O-line coach after the season if we want this to change.

I honestly believe it is not just the players. Sure we need a new Center but i think Boling and Andre could be decent
if they were able to block aggressively, maybe even Og for all we know might be okay. All i know is this scheme does
not let these guys gain any confidence.

(11-20-2017, 10:48 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: A Win is a Win...and a win in Denver is a great thing any time...but 190 Total Yards against Denver?

The offensive stats are ugly.

20 Denver 1st Downs to 12 Bengals ones.

35:11 Denver ToP to 24:49 Bengals.

49 Bengals rushing yards to 112 Broncos rushing yards. 1.9 yards per rush for the Bengals.

Where we won the game was 2 Denver TO's to 0 Bengals. The turnovers flipped the game as our offense struggles without a short field.

(11-20-2017, 03:59 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Oh...there were people cheering on the Bengals wallets in free agency saying Whitworth was old and we drafted a guy in the 1st to replace him and that Zeitler was way overpaid and we made the right move. They just don't talk about it since it's been obvious the line was terrible.

(11-20-2017, 10:48 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Where we won the game was 2 Denver TO's to 0 Bengals. The turnovers flipped the game as our offense struggles without a short field.

(11-20-2017, 08:33 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I look at the RBs similar to the QB getting rattled behind a terrible line. When they're not finding holes 9 out of 10 times, they probably don't know what to do with a hole when they get one.

I've noticed we've been doing a lot of run plays wayyy to the outside...Almost avoiding the line entirely. This line can't run block, period. Mixon is at 2.9 YPC, Hill averaged 3.1 and Gio is at 3.5 and quickly falling. 

This is a trio of 2nd round talents. Some of the top 3 prospects at RB in their respective drafts. Looking at this and how we've ranked 20th or worse in YPC every year since 2006 (sans 2014), I can't view it as a RB problem. PA has been the only constant.

I've been harping about this since I joined the boards in 2011, and year after year, our run game continues to be weak. Right now weak isn't even the word.

(11-20-2017, 08:25 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I was always Team Whit, but I will still totally admit I also said that I wouldn't want Zeitler at that $. He has proven it in Cleveland, too. He is a slightly a over average player, getting paid like he is elite.

So I still do not want Zeitler, but I would have either drafted a Guard in the 2nd or 3rd, or have used some of that money on a GOOD free agent OL.

(11-20-2017, 10:49 PM)Steve Wrote: I plead guilty as charged....
I thought Ced & Fisher would be ok this yr at the OT spots....
& yes I thought the rams overpaid for Whit & same w/ Zeitler....
I thought the O-line would jell into a slightly sub par unit this yr but improve in time....next yr be average...
but I never thought they would be this bad....& imo, it's the entire line....all of them suck....
SMH...
problem is Ced & Fisher signed 4 yr deals....this is only yr #2....so it looks they will be here 2 more years....
But this is Bodines last yr....
so he should leave in FA I hope....maybe draft his replacement in rd 2-3..?? 
  seems every yr the 1st rd pick I want they don't choose....haha
last yr I wanted O.J. Howard...but whatever....seems Erickson can do a great job....did we really need Ross....??  will he ever take another snap this yr..? I feel like i'm in a time loop....

(11-20-2017, 10:49 PM)Steve Wrote: I plead guilty as charged....
I thought Ced & Fisher would be ok this yr at the OT spots....
& yes I thought the rams overpaid for Whit & same w/ Zeitler....
I thought the O-line would jell into a slightly sub par unit this yr but improve in time....next yr be average...
but I never thought they would be this bad....& imo, it's the entire line....all of them suck....
SMH...
problem is Ced & Fisher signed 4 yr deals....this is only yr #2....so it looks they will be here 2 more years....
But this is Bodines last yr....
so he should leave in FA I hope....maybe draft his replacement in rd 2-3..?? 
  seems every yr the 1st rd pick I want they don't choose....haha
last yr I wanted O.J. Howard...but whatever....seems Erickson can do a great job....did we really need Ross....??  will he ever take another snap this yr..? I feel like i'm in a time loop....