(11-20-2017, 06:32 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: How can you call him garbage...  he tried to help you win money.

(11-20-2017, 07:15 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: We've missed in the draft more than hit the last couple years 

(11-20-2017, 08:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Bullock has been bad lately and they should probably look for another option, but we all need to live in reality and remember that Elliott lost the job himself.

Elliott is not the answer.

He has played in 9 regular season games this year. He has missed a kick in 6 of them.

Jake Elliott has missed at least one kick in 66.7% of the games he has played in.

He kicked some long FGs, but otherwise he has been BAD. The Eagles just score enough that their kicker being hella-inaccurate doesn't really matter. Marvin Lewis teams almost always play close games due to conservative play with a lead, and Elliott's inaccuracy would matter a ton here.

If Jake Elliott was missing this many kicks for the Bengals, everyone pining for him now would be torch in hand for his head.

(11-20-2017, 08:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Bullock has been bad lately and they should probably look for another option, but we all need to live in reality and remember that Elliott lost the job himself.

Elliott is not the answer.

He has played in 9 regular season games this year. He has missed a kick in 6 of them.

Jake Elliott has missed at least one kick in 66.7% of the games he has played in.

He kicked some long FGs, but otherwise he has been BAD. The Eagles just score enough that their kicker being hella-inaccurate doesn't really matter. Marvin Lewis teams almost always play close games due to conservative play with a lead, and Elliott's inaccuracy would matter a ton here.

If Jake Elliott was missing this many kicks for the Bengals, everyone pining for him now would be torch in hand for his head.

(11-20-2017, 08:35 PM)Beaker Wrote: 2015: Kroft, Shaw

2016: Jackson, Boyd, Vigil, Billings, Fedejelem

2017: Mixon, Willis, Lawson, Malone, Glasgow, Evans

(11-20-2017, 05:42 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: He is trash. Should have kept Elliot. More upside, younger, and you freaking drafted him in like the 5th round.

Bengals are so stupid.

(11-20-2017, 05:26 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: I’m wondering if his back still isn’t an issue, missed XP’s both games since coming back. Maybe he rushed back for fear of losing his job

Also Elliott could be available when the Eagles kicker gets healthy, if so I’d swap him out in a second

(11-20-2017, 10:23 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Vigil: Sucks

(11-20-2017, 10:23 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Kroft: 3rd round pick who took 3 years to surpass 250 career yards receiving.
*Shaw: Solid #4 CB.

*Jackson: He looks like a keeper if he stops it with the stupid plays here and there.
Boyd: Sucks, has been a healthy scratch this year, is now hurt.
Vigil: Sucks
Billings: Sucks
Fej: Decent ST player, which is fine for a 7th rounder, but nothing to crow about.

Mixon: Averaging 2.9 YPC, just had a 20 carry/49 yard, 2 catch/0 yard game.
Willis: 3rd rounder DE who's on pace for a 1.5 sack season.
*Lawson: Looks like a pretty nice hit as a pass rush specialist.
Malone: Is on pace for a 6.4 catch/86.4 yard/1.6 TD season.
Glasgow: Sucks
Evans: Has done next to nothing all year.

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I feel like in '16 and '17, you just started listing everyone who's made the roster rather than people who are actually any good.

You listed 13 picks, I see 3 GOOD ones out of that list... and that's out of 27 overall picks those three years and I guess you just gave up on even trying to salvage '14.

Combine that with the list of everyone they've lost in that timespan (Whit, Nelson, M Jones, Zeitler) and the fact that they've completely ignored improving in FA (as usual) and it's ugly.

(11-20-2017, 06:59 PM)thillan Wrote: So yes, this thread has plenty of merit. He's a solid young kicker, with plenty of room to grow. But yeah, let's take Bullock.

(11-20-2017, 05:24 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I fully admit, I was Team Elliot this preseason. I also fully admit that Bullock performed better. I also admit I expected more out of this team than they've performed to date and so I understood going with the "win now" guy.

However, based on his recent play, I gotta say, I wish we had kept Elliot. There would have been growing pains, sure, but if we're going to have a guy that misses, at least, let's have a guy who can kick the hell out of the ball that could potentially be here for a long while.

(11-20-2017, 05:24 PM)PhilHos Wrote: There would have been growing pains, sure, but if we're going to have a guy that misses, at least, let's have a guy who can kick the hell out of the ball that could potentially be here for a long while.

(11-21-2017, 07:25 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: There's also something about chubby people (takes one to know one), that they might be lazy and not want to perfect their craft.

(11-21-2017, 02:17 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Bullock has missed 4 kicks and Elliott has missed 7. Their percentages are nearly identical. People keep bringing up range, but we rarely attempt 55+ yard FGs, preferring to punt for position.

I've never seen so much hand wringing over a truly mediocre kicker. I like to believe we have some very intelligent football fans around here, but stuff like this makes me scratch my head.

If yall really are so distraught about losing a future kicking legend, I'm pretty sure the Eagles are going to cut him when their guy gets healthy. I don't care either way. They're both young mediocre kickers. Elliott has more range, but seems prone to missing "gimmies"...If that floats your boat, he's your man.

(11-20-2017, 05:42 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: He is trash. Should have kept Elliot. More upside, younger, and you freaking drafted him in like the 5th round.

Bengals are so stupid.

(11-22-2017, 10:24 AM)BleedNOrange Wrote: Hindsight is always 20/20.  To be fair, Bullock won the kicking competition in the pre-season.  I don't know how the Bengals could say that it's an open competition and then stick with Elliot.