(01-11-2018, 02:45 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: See with you guys that obsess over the o line this year like never before. But really it was two guys that were bad on the o line. Two guys emerged westerman and Redmond, the run game improved ,the line just wasn't bad starting the game before the Pittsburgh game. Yet you guys think we got to select 3-4 lineman. FALSE just get rid of Cedric and don't allow him on the line ,and atleast get a tackle somewhere ,Bodine needs replaced but I bet they bring him back.  Next year the o line will be fine.

Now as for #2 receiver I agree with you,lafell needs to go we got to do better then him,Ross is unproven and Boyd's been a slot. Where is the #2 going to come from I do not know . But losing lafell is a positive for us. 

I know fans really have no reason to think optimistic and I'm usually on the negative side like I said. But we know Dalton and pretty good coaches can get to the playoffs atleast. It's been proven. We lost important coaches after 2015 and didn't replace them. So now we are replacing bad coaches. So now we will see what they do the rest of the way after hiring these coaches which sounds like they will be better coaches.

(01-10-2018, 08:46 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Mike Brown was banking on us having short memories when he re-signed Merv....I never woulda guessed he’d be right this fast. Figured it’d take at least until the draft before people started forgetting how bad Merv is and how much this team has regressed these past few years. It doesn’t matter how good this team is, they won’t make it past the first round of the playoffs with you know who coaching

(01-10-2018, 08:35 PM)Beaker Wrote: To the OP....good for you.

Optimism is ALWAYS the better option when navigating the twists in life. These boards could use a little more of that.

(01-10-2018, 08:02 PM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: I was hoping on a good head coach coming and drafting a potential good qb at seasons end. That isn't happening and I thought my dedication is going to go way down. But...its been a snowball getting bigger of being optimistic,and I'm not the optimistic type like alot of people are i consider myself a realist.

(01-10-2018, 08:06 PM)GodFather Wrote: Well that didn't take long, by September you will be convinced the new coaches and draft choices will have us at 11-5 and deep in the playoffs....



...well that is until the first week of January.

(01-10-2018, 08:20 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We pay Harold Goodwin and i will have some optimism, this guy is just what we need at O-line coach. He is not one
dimensional like PA was, he can coach up run blocking and pass blocking. This would be huge for this team as PA
could only coach pass blocking and still his guys kept their hands too low and quit at times.

I just hope Marv has demands for FA and we go after a top tier O-lineman to really free up the draft.

We do this and things will be looking pretty good IMHO.

We still won 7 games last year with that shitty O-line, i think we can win enough to maybe win a Playoff game with
a good O-line. I really like our RB's and maybe our new WR coach can get something out of either Ross, Boyd, Malone
or Core.

Our Defense is pretty stacked and young, i still have high hopes for Billings. Have really high hopes for Will Jax,
Lawson, Willis and Dennard.

(01-11-2018, 06:40 AM)Utts Wrote: I don't see Mike Brown sitting in his PBS office wringing his hands over fan opinion on keeping Marvin. He wasn't counting on anything. I think he did what he thought was best.

(01-11-2018, 10:37 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: And, yes, I am speaking to you Shawn Williams, most overpaid piece of crap on this team.   Outplayed by a 7th round draft pick and it wasn't even close.

(01-11-2018, 12:28 PM)BMK Wrote: I don't understand all this new-found optimism.  It's all a big a smoke screen....meaningless.  As we all here are smart enough to have figured out by now, the coaching moves etc, mean nothing... because after all:

Our success (or lack thereof)  is already pre-scripted by the league
The league hates us and doesn't want us to succeed.
The NFL only wants the bigger markets to succeed (even though we are a bigger market than Buffalo, Jacksonville and New Orleans).
The refs get together before each game and decide how they're going to cheat against us.
Etc. etc. etc.

So I don't understand all the optimism and enthusiasm, since we all know the above to be true.  


It IS all true, isn't it?      

(01-10-2018, 08:02 PM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: I was hoping on a good head coach coming and drafting a potential good qb at seasons end. That isn't happening and I thought my dedication is going to go way down. But...its been a snowball getting bigger of being optimistic,and I'm not the optimistic type like alot of people are i consider myself a realist.

First with the firing of Alexander, that guy couldn't pick good lineman for a long time ,and just isn't a good O line coach. You can just look at him and he looks like a turd of a coach. Next Pauly G. Even though he was not bad ,he wasn't great . He was definitely no Zimmer.  I believe Austin and his assistants have the potential to make us a better defense.

I like the rumors of all the coaches I am hearing . And I think we atleast know a good coaching staff can get us to the playoffs . NOW ... the determining factor will be other things I think if we make the next step to playoff wins. And that's going to take time to see if it happens. I'm talking about Free Agency , The draft and will we actually play the guys who deserve to play I think is a big key. I'm not thrilled with Andy I think you need a better QB to win the Superbowl. But he might atleast get us some playoff wins with a great team around him. Id like to draft a good potential guy but I don't think we have the extra picks to do it,and I know Marvin will not draft a 1st round QB.

The next thing in line to win a playoff game will be , our bad luck and injury problems. It's the Bengals way for someone to get hurt in a promising year. That's why I hope we have the depth at all positions. But I'm optimistic on a fun winning season this year. I alsok think Gruden, the pats ,Steelers will still be in the playoffs next year,it's a shame franchises always do better then us,we deserve a ring here.

(01-11-2018, 02:27 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I'm not there, though I could see convincing myself to be optimistic again. That said, let's be real: with Merv as HC, we're practically guaranteed 8 wins. He's only had less than 8 wins five times since being here and only 2 of those times were 4 win seasons. 

(01-11-2018, 01:07 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I'm not drinking the cool aid. We won two games at the end of the year, got some new position coaches and everybody goes crazy. Marvin is still the coach so nothing will change far as him getting us over the hump. Just on the line alone we need a left tackle, center, right guard and right tackle  Everybody says address the line in free agency. This years o-line free agent class is terrible the only good player worth signing is Norwell the guard from the Panthers which some people on here have already mentioned. I doubt the Bengals will pay big money for a free agent period and doubt they will pay big money for a free agent guard. So that leaves the draft we need to draft at least two lineman in the first two rounds and they both will probably have to start and be good right away.  Whatever line coach you bring in won't be able to save Ogbuehi or Fisher unless he runs a system that requires lineman to let defenders run by untouched.  So your probably going to have to add 3 new lineman that have never played together, more than likely two will be rookies that have to be good right away so that right there is a huge task. Also who else can get open besides Green ? I don't know if Ross is even good or that he can stay healthy. Tyler Boyd was 'MIA' all season long , a healthy scratch for 2 games just because he had two good games at the end of the year i'm not buying into the fact that he can do it on a consistent basis.  I have hope for the defense because we have some good talent but we still need two linebackers and a safety that can make a ball on the ball.