(08-01-2018, 10:11 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Overzealous fans that forget they root for the Bengals.

(08-01-2018, 10:13 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: When was the last time a Bengals team had this much talent with coaches who actually know what they're doing?

(08-01-2018, 10:11 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Overzealous fans that forget they root for the Bengals.

(08-02-2018, 12:11 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: That might be a valid statement any other offseason, but we went 7-9 last year and look at all the improvements made to the team and coaching staff.

It's not just blind optimism this year.

(08-02-2018, 01:27 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: How many games have they won?

It's the definition of blind optimism. 

(08-01-2018, 10:18 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The exact same thing has been said (yes, even last year) for the last several years. 

It's always wash, rinse, repeat around here. 

(08-02-2018, 08:22 AM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Last year I didn't think we'd win 5 games, and we went 7-9.  We've made improvements, hired new coaches, have key players coming back healthy, and have battles for starting positions.  Much to be optimistic about my friend.

(08-02-2018, 10:11 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Although I'm a bit more optimistic than Rfaulk I fully understand where he's coming from and agree with him sorta. 

In other words I have no illusions this team is going to go from being somewhere between an NFL joke/wanna be contender and miraculously morph into the Patriots in one season. However I am holding out hope things are changing.

I mean for the love of gawd Mike Brown surely after 26 seasons has to realize his way doesn't work and let the football people do football things right ? Isn't that what happened this offseason ?

(08-02-2018, 10:11 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Although I'm a bit more optimistic than Rfaulk I fully understand where he's coming from and agree with him sorta. 

In other words I have no illusions this team is going to go from being somewhere between an NFL joke/wanna be contender and miraculously morph into the Patriots in one season. However I am holding out hope things are changing.

I mean for the love of gawd Mike Brown surely after 26 seasons has to realize his way doesn't work and let the football people do football things right ? Isn't that what happened this offseason ?

(08-02-2018, 11:27 AM)Wyche Wrote: Gotta agree.  As I said earlier, I think they hit about 9 wins this season....which is an improvement.  I think it will be another year before they reach their full potential.  It may come sooner, but I have my reservations with so many new moving pieces.

(08-01-2018, 08:46 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Nate my friend, lets not forget Mark Walton. Am I excited about this kid!!!

(08-01-2018, 10:18 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The exact same thing has been said (yes, even last year) for the last several years. 

It's always wash, rinse, repeat around here. 

(08-02-2018, 01:12 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: I'm still on the Kool-Aid.  Very excited for this season, and I haven't been able to say that for awhile.  

(08-02-2018, 01:12 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: I'm still on the Kool-Aid.  Very excited for this season, and I haven't been able to say that for awhile.  

(08-02-2018, 03:38 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh I'm with ya brother !

I think we'll see a much improved team this season in all facets of the game. 9-10 win season is very probable.

But I'm not going to jump off a cliff yelling Super Bowl here we come and having Mike and Marvin in charge of pulling the rip cord on my parachute.

(08-02-2018, 03:55 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, i have to see a Playoff win before i believe it under Marv.

I just find it to be a bit ridiculous to not see that even with Marv and PA we still won a lot of regular season games.

Adding Pollack, Lazor, Austin, Van Pelt, a new WR coach always forget his name, Glenn and Price should have most
excited and seeing us win atleast 8 games. Hearing all the right things and with our weapons and a renewed running
game i see us winning around 12 but losing in the Playoffs.

(08-02-2018, 04:04 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh I agree, I don't think 12 wins is out of the question. Nor do I feel a playoff win is out of the question.

But going from where this team has been with 26 years of Mike and now what 16 ? of Marvin I'm not gonna bet the farm all is fixed and all is well in one offseason.

I'd be elated if it was, be drunk for a week. Nah a year 

(08-02-2018, 03:22 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Believe Mixon is in for a breakout year as well.

But for Fantasy Gio will take more carries than one may think.