(09-11-2018, 02:20 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: By now we all know the dubiousness of PFF, but I did add the term "off-season champion" simply because, based on the initial reviews of his tape, he was graded as a 2nd-3rd rounder. I forget what triggered his ascent to a 1st round pick but it was very sudden and very immediate. And those kinds of rises are always suspicious. Reminded me of Jason Smith in 2009 (on a smaller scale, of course, as he went from a late 1st-early 2nd round pick to a top 2 pick).

(09-11-2018, 11:00 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I don't know if I'd call the Jets "for real" just yet. If Darnold stays within himself they may make some waves ?

The Lions are the NFC's Bengals ! They spit the bit at random moments. They may come out next week and wax the Eagles, not sure who they play ? Then blow chunks against Cleveland the following week. What did Stafford end up with 5 pics ? You can't win any NFL game like that unless you're playing Cleveland.

Ragnow vs. Price - way to early to tell

On Andy Dalton’s interception at Indy, it looked like Billy Price got bowled over by Colts DT Al Woods. But looking at the All-22 video, Clint Boling accidentally stepped on Price’s left foot causing him to lose balance. pic.twitter.com/HtJgSC067W

— Dan Hoard (@Dan_Hoard) September 11, 2018

(09-11-2018, 04:35 PM)pally Wrote: turns out on the Dalton interception play, Price's foot was stepped on by Clint Boling

On Andy Dalton’s interception at Indy, it looked like Billy Price got bowled over by Colts DT Al Woods. But looking at the All-22 video, Clint Boling accidentally stepped on Price’s left foot causing him to lose balance. pic.twitter.com/HtJgSC067W

— Dan Hoard (@Dan_Hoard) September 11, 2018

 

(09-11-2018, 05:15 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Thats a good catch.. Here is the vid of it, not the wide view though at the 13 second mark. (click Watch on YouTube) cause the NFL are moneygrubbing knkjnjs.

At least we know it wasn't all of Price's fault for sure.

(09-11-2018, 06:06 PM)Synric Wrote: It was not just one play Al Woods gave Price trouble most of the game. Thursday Price goes up against Brandon Williams who is a lot better than Woods.

(09-11-2018, 10:15 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Ragnow was always a prospect I was suspicious of. He went from a 2nd/3rd round prospect to a top 20 prospect almost over night. If his game tape were good enough he would have never fallen out of the first round discussion to begin with.

As for Price, he was considered a top 20 lock until he got injured and only then did people start questioning his draft stock.

So he and Ragnow were going in opposite directions, "stock wise" heading into the draft so I think it was natural that Bengals fans were upset that they got the "cold prospect" rather than the "hot prospect."

The problem with hot prospects is...there was a reason they were so low to begin with. And we'll see how this pans out over the course of the year, but I'm always weary of workout warriors or off-season champions. And Ragnow was certainly one of those.

(09-11-2018, 06:49 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: What game did you watch?  I admit that Price did not have a flawless game, but he did well for most of the game and didn't have a lot of trouble with Woods.

(09-11-2018, 07:39 PM)Synric Wrote: Same one you did. 

He wasn't as bad as Hart but Price did not look good by a long shot. Most of his issues was with run blocking.

Redmond gave up some pressures but had a nice game pulling around the edges in the run game.

(09-11-2018, 07:42 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: That isn't what I saw at all.  Thanks for sharing your observations.  I just don't agree with what you claim to have seen.

(09-11-2018, 07:45 PM)Synric Wrote: PFF even gave him a worst grade in the run game than in pass pro. Meaning he had issues run blocking so I'm not 5he only one who observed it.

Thursday he goes up against Brandon Williams and Williams is a very good nose tackle.

(09-11-2018, 10:52 AM)grampahol Wrote: Quite the imagination you have there. I never really gave the size of rinoceros balls much thought, but then gay beastiality really isn't my thing. ..not that I'm saying it's yours either, but you did bring up the idea .  Be honest now. How many videos of rinoceroses running away from the camera do you have qued up and ready to view late at night? 
I just had a thought.. Think of the schear bravery required to do such an act with a male rinoceros? It's definitely not for the faint of heart . That's for sure. 
"Well hello there big guy . Care for some fun?"  I'm guessing that line probably wouldn't work with too many rino's.. 

(09-11-2018, 08:25 PM)YsCascadia Wrote: Again I didn't see it at all... PFF has very little credibility with me.  I have never supported them and I don't know why so many like to use them as a go to, unless it is to support their claim, like you are doing.

I saw a guy that had 1 terrible play, and then settled down and adjusted nicely.  He didn't win all of his matches, which is very hard to do in the NFL, but he did hold his own on his first outing.

I don't care who Baltimore has, Price may to make some adjustments but what he showed on Sunday is that he can do that. 

Williams was apart of the Ravens last year when they were in win and in playoff mode.  He had to go up against Russell Bodine and was thwarted.  Yes Williams will get some shots, but I don't see Williams winning a lot of matches against Price.

(09-11-2018, 09:24 PM)Synric Wrote: I claimed he struggled in the run game which is also supported by a third party. Could Price get better absolutely but I refuse to stick my head in the sand just because he's not Bodine. Price had a bad game plain and simple.

....And are you saying it doesn't matter about the talent level of the guy Price lines up across from?