(09-14-2018, 12:42 PM)Au165 Wrote: They ran a lot of 2 man and cover 0 shells which intrinsically open up the middle of the field. One could argue the fact Ross was in the game with AJ is why they did this rather than running a straight bracket double team on AJ all game.

(09-14-2018, 01:34 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I prefer the philosophy of putting the best players a team has on the field, and I would like Erickson to be given the chance to see if he is one of the top 3 receivers on the team. 

Plus in today's offenses, players shift around so much and lineup wherever, there is no such thing any more as traditional slots and outside receivers like it used to be.

(09-14-2018, 12:24 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Personally I have been of the opinion that Erickson should get a chance to have a bigger role in the passing game, because I think he can succeed in a 3rd to 4th receiver role. Unfortunately for him, he has AJ, Boyd, Ross, Eifert in front of him.

So last night I saw someone post about replacing Ross with Erickson. Ross was just a non-factor with 1 catch. Last week he had 1 catch, for a TD. Our top 10 pick from last year has 2 catches on the season so far, which I guess is 2 more than last year, so babysteps?

My proposal agrees. AJ and Boyd on the 'outside', cementing #1 and #2 receivers. Erickson named slot as the #3 receiver to work the middle and go up against linebackers and whoever to find those softspots in the defense. He can't be worse than Ross by any means, and if anything there is imo a really good chance he can succeed.

ps. Though doubtful this happens, hope Ross can do something eventually.

(09-14-2018, 02:40 PM)Wyche Wrote: I also think the threat of number 28 helps a bit too.  He keeps the LBs and S at times honest.  They have to keep their eyes in the BF long enough to get single coverages and holes in coverage as well.  

True Wyche, sounds like you are becoming a Mixon fan...

(09-14-2018, 02:58 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I'm all for giving Ross more time. How much time is another question.

(09-14-2018, 04:03 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True Wyche, sounds like you are becoming a Mixon fan...

(09-14-2018, 04:00 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Completely disagree, Ross just being on the field is a big reason AJ and Boyd had such a great game.

If anything Ross needs more snaps, more reps and eventually he will work the rawness out and have great games himself.

Nothing against Erickson, he is a solid backup, but he doesn't scare Defenses like Ross does, not even close.

Also, Erickson is not an outside Receiver, he is purely a Slot Receiver and that is Boyd's spot he is backing up.

(09-14-2018, 04:04 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Remember when we said give Ogbuehi some time. It’s “basically “ his rookie year.  That’s what this feels like.   If he was a late draft pick he definitely wouldn’t be seeing the field at all.   I seriously doubt having Ross on the field changes anyone’s coverage.   He hasn’t proven anything yet, and you really believe defensive coordinator account for him?  Shoot they don’t plan for Green it seems and he’s been burning defense for 8 years now.  It’s still really early but he’s shown nothing.

(09-14-2018, 04:06 PM)Wyche Wrote: Well.....he's on my sqaud, so.....


He's been out of the headlines outside of what he does on the field.....which is what we wanted him to do.  He's to be commended. :andy:

Awesome.   How has Dalvin looked in Minny this year? Haven't heard anything bout him yet.

(09-14-2018, 04:09 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If I’m giving any WR a chance over Ross, it’s Malone. He’s better suited outside. Erickson should be the top backup slot behind Boyd.


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(09-14-2018, 04:09 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Ross's 2 catches in 5 games scares defenses? 

(09-14-2018, 02:50 PM)Au165 Wrote: I prefer to use guys in their best roles. To say there is no such thing as roles isn't really true. Guys do get moved around yes, but there are positions that make guys more effective than others. AJ is an X receiver, now can he play other positions? Sure, but he is best used as an X and causes the biggest impact on the defense from the X. Now when we are in 12 personnel Boyd moves to the Z, but he is most effective inside because of his freedom of movement.That means to move him back outside in 3 wide sets is to mismanage using him.  Now can he play outside based on formation? Sure. Bunches specifically do a lot of the same things that playing out of the slot does, same thing with stacking relievers. 

The same way I said last week not to proclaim Fej the savior and replace Williams I am saying give Ross time to adjust. It takes time to excel in the NFL at WR except for a very few exceptions. This is really his first full year starting and he needs game reps to really learn. If you take Ross off the field in favor of Erickson you allow the defense to go back to single high safeties with bracket coverage on AJ.

(09-14-2018, 04:09 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Ross's 2 catches in 5 games scares defenses? 

(09-14-2018, 04:21 PM)Millhouse Wrote: The emergence of Boyd being a legit threat with Eifert out there is what is going to keep AJ from getting covered. Ross hasn't done anything but catch a 3 yard TD that any receiver should catch.

As I said, I hope Ross improves, but it has to happen now. Otherwise he is just an empty uniform out there instead of someone like Erickson and even Malone that can help the offense more.

(09-14-2018, 04:16 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Exactly, atleast Malone is an outside Receiver.


Yeah, when one was a TD. The Ravens can see why, you just can't i guess. Speed and those quicks cannot be taught.

I hope teams aren't scared of him and try and ignore him. He will make them pay big time.

I said if before we drafted him, a player like Ross opens up the game for other players by him just being on the field.

And it is showing, don't screw with the Offense right now, would be the stupidest thing we could do.

(09-14-2018, 04:09 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If I’m giving any WR a chance over Ross, it’s Malone. He’s better suited outside. Erickson should be the top backup slot behind Boyd.


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(09-14-2018, 04:04 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Remember when we said give Ogbuehi some time. It’s “basically “ his rookie year.  That’s what this feels like. 

(09-14-2018, 04:39 PM)Millhouse Wrote: But if speed and quickness was so important, I would think teams would start suiting up some track n field guys out there as decoys. I guess they dont see that.