(10-28-2018, 06:18 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote:  It is common for Bengals fans to always talking about 'next' year!

(10-26-2018, 01:21 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In my opinion, the very first thing that should be looked at, when considering a defensive player's value, is open field tacking ability.  The object of the defense is to stop the progress by putting the ball carrier on the ground.  All of the "wicked hits" in the world don't mean a thing, if you can't break it down and wrap the man up.

(10-29-2018, 11:18 AM)Go Cards Wrote: LB'er is an issue in coverage and the entire defense is in need of upgrading in tackling as well.

But will lose my mind if OL is not addressed in first round.

(10-28-2018, 12:28 PM)Goalpost Wrote: White's a great player.  But I'm really following Josh Allen as well.  White is 6' 240.  Allen is 6'4 250.  While Allen is more of an edge, he also drops in coverage.  

So far this year.  White has 76 tackles, 7 TFL, 1 sack.  Allen has 56 tackles, 14 1/2 TFL, 10 sacks.

(10-28-2018, 05:45 PM)Jpoore Wrote: He's a top 15 talent. We'd be absolutely lucky and would sprint to the podium if have there when we pick.

(10-28-2018, 06:18 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote:  It is common for Bengals fans to always talking about 'next' year!

(10-30-2018, 02:12 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: The NFL is turning into the Big 12.  Everyone is running some sort of spread offense and there is truly no room for anyone in the back 7 that can't cover.

That being said, base nickel is going to be a thing of the past, it's going to be base dime.  

Give me a linebacker that can run, cover, do it all.  We will probably see more 3 safety sets with 4 corners.  IF White can play all 3 downs and cover a TE or RB then I'm all for it, if not, I'll pass.

Also - I wouldn't gloat too much, I've seen Hernandez get beaten like a drum several times this year.

(10-31-2018, 01:50 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Teams will eventually go back to running the football at some point because the emphasis on ilegal contact will go down which will help defenses. I think the Base defense is still going to be Nickle for a while.

(11-01-2018, 11:17 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I disagree that the NFL is going to become more relaxed on illegal contact and big hits. There's been nothing to indicate that at all.

(10-30-2018, 12:13 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Allen while maybe not a pure off Ball LB would still have a ton of value for us.
1.) He can play base Sam  LB for us . He can set an edge and has enough athletic ability to cover TEs and RBs. 
2.) Lawson just tore his ACL we may need to think about an edge player to replace him. If Lawson is healthy then it doesn't hurt to have another pass rushers on the roster. Especially when you consider that 70% of games are played in Nickle and you really only need 2 LB on a field at once.
3.) I role the dice and draft him if he is there because I think the talent out weighs the need value. Also I think he can do it all; while he may feel/want to be a full time pass rusher he also can be an effective off Ball LB.

(11-02-2018, 12:02 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: The big hits probably not(which isn't really a big deal) but this happens with illegal contact all the time.  It spikes every 4 or 5 years then it goes back down. In fact come late November it will be called a lot less than it is now.

(10-29-2018, 01:41 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: There are some good OT this year unlike last year.  But may be worth the pick because as bad as the O line has been, backers have been worse.  

(11-02-2018, 10:20 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree LBer has been horrible for us this year and am one of the few who wanted to trade Burfict to Raiders when rumor thread started. 

With that being said not sure they do it. Vigil was a high pick recently and has played his best this year when healthy, Brown has been going with foot injury and Bengals recently invested in him with trade as well. The love most have for Burfict is well documented on here. 

Plus they really have not played together enough to have chemistry with each other while all are healthy. Think they will play better down stretch. Hoping anyway. 

Not saying we do not need LBer and have mocked one in first round many times the last 5 years but see the OL as much bigger need presently. 

Yet both are needs that should be addressed in offseason as well as NT, although Billings is starting to play better too.  

(11-26-2018, 11:19 PM)Shady Wrote: I see us getting a top 10 pick this year. Devin White or Josh Allen could be that that guy. The OTs in this draft are not worth a top 10. Here's my first 4 rounds.

Devin White, ILB, LSU 
Ben Cleveland, G, Georgia 
Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State 
Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington 

(11-27-2018, 10:16 AM)Jpoore Wrote: Replace the second round guard with Ford from Oklahoma or what's his face from Boston college. Both better and will be there. Also disagree with ur statement about tackle. Trey Adams is a top 5 talent in any draft. That said we need lber more. I  would take white then trade up into rd1 for Adams.

(11-26-2018, 11:19 PM)Shady Wrote: I see us getting a top 10 pick this year. Devin White or Josh Allen could be that that guy. The OTs in this draft are not worth a top 10. Here's my first 4 rounds.

Devin White, ILB, LSU 
Ben Cleveland, G, Georgia 
Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State 
Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington