(11-27-2018, 01:19 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: How many people have hired Chuck in a truck to paint the house or remodel the bathroom and very quickly realized the money they saved was a giant mistake ?

(11-27-2018, 12:42 AM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Don't forget the litany of injuries either. The strength and conditioning coaches are probably a place where the cheap bastard cuts corners to save those pennies 

(11-27-2018, 12:45 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The cheap bastard (your words) gave them the state of the art workout area and equipment????

Why don't we place blame where it belongs for once, on strength coach and players who have no work ethic.

(11-27-2018, 12:47 AM)Wyche Wrote: George just laid it out there for ya....another lifer like Piano Paul.  Yeah...probably has one dude and ither teams have 12...like our scouting department. Cheap bastard is right. He finds ways to rub two nickles together in an effort to make a dime, best believe that. 

(11-27-2018, 09:53 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Even if successful, what would that get you?  

(11-27-2018, 01:41 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Who needs a strength coach and state of the art equipment?  Mike Brown splurged for 60 Total Gyms, a dozen Shake Weights, and a few dusty Ab Loungers.

(11-27-2018, 10:03 AM)Sled21 Wrote: The Bengals DO have state of the art equipment. And, when Pollack got here and didn't like the blocking sleds PA used, they were all replaced with what he wanted. Again, there are enough legitimate gripes about this organization, I don't know why people feel the need to make things up....

(11-27-2018, 10:14 AM)Wyche Wrote: It wasn't sleds....PA didn't have things like the chute and other practice equipment. He preferred arm pads....

(11-27-2018, 10:44 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Well you get my drift.... Pollack asked for new equipment and got it.... and the Bengals just totally revamped their strength facility.

https://www.bengals.com/video/new-weight-training-area-15877514

(11-27-2018, 12:56 AM)Wyche Wrote: Or maybe Chip is a sorry stack of shit like Piano Paul and stays put in a comfy position he knows he most likely won't lose for less money. The other simple business adage.....you get what you pay for.

(11-27-2018, 10:03 AM)Sled21 Wrote: The Bengals DO have state of the art equipment. And, when Pollack got here and didn't like the blocking sleds PA used, they were all replaced with what he wanted. Again, there are enough legitimate gripes about this organization, I don't know why people feel the need to make things up....

(11-27-2018, 10:44 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Well you get my drift.... Pollack asked for new equipment and got it.... and the Bengals just totally revamped their strength facility.

https://www.bengals.com/video/new-weight-training-area-15877514

(11-27-2018, 11:51 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Those who decided to highjack the thread with going after MB don't like facts that dispute their arguments. MB may be cheap, but the point of this thread is why is our team so much weaker than other teams? We can't plant and drop someone and that is on workouts in the weight room so strength coach(es) and players work ethic.

I get it some think MB is cheap, God Bless you so now can we get back on thread topic.

(11-27-2018, 01:35 PM)Whatever Wrote: Chip actually has a good pedigree.  He was an assistant at Ohio State, Penn State's strength and conditioning coach, went to the SB as the Charger's strength coach, won a ring as the Ravens strength coach, and seems to still be working on furthering his education and certifications(at least per his bio).

A couple of other things I would look at are technique and effort.  Injuries tend to happen when you don't go 100%, and this team really seems to lack in the effort department.  

I think another possibility is other teams are known to cheat and slide in extra full pad practices.  I highly doubt we are doing the same.

(11-27-2018, 12:42 AM)Wyche Wrote: Don't forget the litany of injuries either. The strength and conditioning coaches are probably a place where the cheap bastard cuts corners to save those pennies 

(11-27-2018, 02:30 PM)McC Wrote: Injuries are way more a matter of luck or bad intent by opponents than a lack of toughness.  What on earth could Eifert have done in the weight room to have prevented a guy from diving into his knee?

And I don't agree that strength is an issue either.  If it was all about strength, no DB would ever tackle a back or TE.  It's not physical with this team.  It's lack of desire and terrible technique.

I don't know if Chip Morton is a problem or not.  But he was here when Zimmer had the #4 defense.    Did he forget how to do his job since then or have the players forgotten how to do theirs?

(11-27-2018, 03:24 PM)Wyche Wrote: In the case of Eifert.....it's DEFINITELY bad luck, and I'd say the Denard injury was too.  However, on defense, or either line....bad technique or taking plays off can get you hurt.

(11-27-2018, 03:28 PM)McC Wrote: Exactly.  And you can't really lay that at the feet of the S/C coach.