(12-14-2018, 01:28 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: His style of play will involve some collisions. If he were bigger, I would love him.

But his size is a big hindrance with his style of play.

(12-13-2018, 10:50 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: He is able  to sign with an NFL team; He might not want to but he is allowed to.

(12-17-2018, 02:24 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Kyler Murray's contract with the athletics states that if he declares for the NFL draft he is owed 50 percent of his contract, minimum of 8 million and termination of mlb contract but still own the rights to him. A NFL team can draft him but cannot sign him to a contract bc the A's own his rights.

(12-14-2018, 01:41 AM)Whatever Wrote: I think he's RG3 2.0.  He will look great for a year, maybe 2, then nosedive as the injuries pile up.

(12-18-2018, 07:30 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Yep. Talented player with a high floor. But I don't see him doing too well in the NFL due to his size.

(12-19-2018, 11:39 AM)Au165 Wrote: Doug Flutie was 5'10, it's not unheard of. He is deceptively thick compared to RG3 and Lamar Jackson, maybe could add 10 pounds or so but not a huge issue. He came out of the same system as Mayfield so the play style thing I don't see. He is pegged as this runner, but he only ran 123 times this year which was only 30 more times than Mayfield did his last year at OU. His arm strength is NFL quality and his ability to move inside the pocket and keep his eyes downfield make him a plus for a team with a bad line. 

More teams are adopting air raid principals and as we have seen from Mahomes and Mayfield's success coming out of those offenses it is translating. With Mahomes Mania sweeping the league if Murray declares he will be in the discussion for to be QB1 when it's all said and done. 

(12-20-2018, 12:05 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Doug Flutie also made his NFL debut in 1986. And only last 5 seasons before having to go to the CFL for the next 8 years. Flutie only ever played one full 16 game season in his 12 seasons in the NFL. He started 66 games.

Yes. Mayfield ran 30 less times than Murray did in his final season.
But also Mayfield attempted WAY more passes throughout his career.
Mayfield's lowest pass attempts is also Murray's highest (340).

Yes. Murray is a talent. No one is denying that. But put on tape of Mayfield and Murray and there's a distinct difference.
Kyler Murray is listed at 5-9, 195 lbs.
Bakey Mayfield is 6-2, 220 lbs.
You brought up Mahomes, who is 6-3, 230 lbs.

Russell Wilson could be a closer representation when it comes to "size". He's 5-11, 205 lbs.

If Murray goes into the NFL, he's going to have some struggles. Does he have the ability to be a great player? Absolutely. The talent is there.
But he's going to take hits. Are you able to put your trust into a 5-9, 195 lbs QB's body to hold up with the kinds of hits he's going to take?
That's what GMs will have to think about.
High risk. High reward.

(12-20-2018, 04:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Murray is going to baseball people, stop.

(12-20-2018, 04:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Murray is going to baseball people, stop.

(12-18-2018, 12:22 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: They owe his baseball rights like he can't sign with another MLB team.

(12-20-2018, 11:42 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Incorrect. He cannot sign a contract with another professsional sports team.

Can confirm Kyler Murray’s contract with #Athletics includes a provision whereby he’d forgo/repay a very large portion of his signing bonus if he opts to play in the NFL. @MLB @MLBNetwork

— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) December 12, 2018

(12-20-2018, 04:19 PM)Au165 Wrote: I believe he will leverage like John Elway, basically telling all the teams he has no interest in playing for he is going Baseball if they draft him but would play for a couple select teams. The whole "more money" thing of baseball has been disproved repeatedly in multiple places so I'm not going to dive into that again. 

(12-20-2018, 04:51 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: How do you know this? If he is drafted in the first Rd he would get more money than his baseball contract. Plus it will take him about 2 to 3 years in the minors plus another 6 years after that to reach free agency. In the NFL it would take him 4 or 5 years to get to free agency. 

(12-21-2018, 11:01 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: We'll see; I'm only saying what I said above because...


... because during the OU/TEX game this year, the commentators quoted him as saying that he has no interest and is going to baseball, that's why.

Watch college

(12-21-2018, 11:06 AM)Au165 Wrote: I heard an analyst say that NFL GM's are telling him that his parents have told a bunch of teams that he would play FB if he was drafted in the right slot to the right team i.e. good situation and with enough guaranteed. 

(12-30-2018, 01:04 PM)jj22 Wrote: His height may just be too much to overlook. Smaller then Wilson. His arm strength is there, and he has NFL poise.

How different of a prospect is he then Quinton Flowers? Who the NFL forced to play another position.