(09-08-2015, 09:06 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I read this and my thought was:

If AD throws more TD's than Manning, then why would AJ start a game and why would AD losing the starting job?

I also find it funny how the media is polarized with Dalton. I did not see them cut him any slack when he had no weapons in 2014, but now we have the most awesome (unproven) weapons in the league according to one writer.

It is obvious AD is hated by the National media and that is fine, but he is not the bad QB some try to make him out to be.

(09-08-2015, 10:36 AM)whodey4life84 Wrote: Did you see what the Eagles did this offseason?  They went out and got Bradford. Why did Chip Kelly do that? He said getting to the playoffs just isn't enough, it's about winning a Super Bowl. I know most Bengals fans are scared of change because the 90s are still lurking in the back of your minds. Dalton will never take us to the Super Bowl. He has reached his ceiling. No he is not gonna magically breakout and become the best QB or a top 5 QB in the league. What you've seen the last 4 years is what you get. I'm not an NFL coach but I do see that McCarron's pocket presence is light years ahead of Dalton's only after a few preseason games. He will stand in the pocket and deliver a big throw in the of intense pressure and make the throw, something that Dalton doesn't do. He also has a stronger arm than Dalton. McCarron's ceiling is about 20 foot higher than Dalton's. I don't see McCarron starting this year unless injury but I do see him as out starter at some point in time beyond the 2015 season. Why do you think they have Dalton the contract they did? Was it just coincidence or did it give them an exit plan because they too aren't completely sold on him?

(09-08-2015, 11:37 AM)BengalChris Wrote: Throwing more TDs than Manning doesn't necessarily mean a successful season for Dalton.

Andy Dalton didn't have no weapons in 2014. AJ Green, Gresham, Bernard, Hill and Sanu are not no weapons. That's just one of those excuses that people are really, really tired of.

We don't know if McC has what it takes yet.

(09-08-2015, 11:38 AM)Brownshoe Wrote: Flacco's first 5 playoff games he was worse than Daltons first 4. Now look at him. I guess QBs can never change huh

(09-08-2015, 11:25 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: So they went out and got a QB that cant stay healthy....  Traded away their good running back and got the one that had over 400 carries last year( usual decline the following season)  

Daltons contract was in line with Kaepernicks...  Franchise not selling the farm and letting the player bet on themselves.

(09-08-2015, 11:40 AM)whodey4life84 Wrote: Exactly and as witnessed, Kaepernick isnt a super bowl winning qb and would be surprised to see him as the 49ers starter for much longer. Id give it a year or too. All Im asking is do you think Aaron Rodgers or even Cam Newton would accept a pay for play contract or do you even think the Packers or Panthers would insult them by offering a contract like that? Exactly. Dalton is who he is. Accept it.

(09-08-2015, 11:40 AM)BengalChris Wrote: How is winning in the playoffs worse than losing?

(09-08-2015, 11:43 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: Do we think Dalton is Rodgers No...

And dalton has out perform newton thus far in his career.

(09-08-2015, 11:44 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: its not...  but using flacco against dalton is stupid when it was the D and run game that got flacco and the ravens those early wins.   Not even the All mighty peyton didnt get his first until year five i believe.

(09-08-2015, 11:47 AM)whodey4life84 Wrote: Lmao you guys have the nerve to talk about no weapons for Dalton but then say he has outperformed Cam. Cam is head & shoulders above Dalton and literally has had barely any weapons around him. Has won in the playoffs and can single handedly put a team on his shoulders and win. You guys should know, he single handedly was the reason they tied us last year. I would put everything I own that not one GM would take Dalton over Cam. Some of you Dalton homers amaze me.

(09-08-2015, 11:40 AM)BengalChris Wrote: How is winning in the playoffs worse than losing?

(09-08-2015, 11:56 AM)Brownshoe Wrote: Cam has had about the same amount of weapons Dalton has had. Cam did a good job beating a 3rd string QB in the playoffs... barely...

(09-08-2015, 12:05 PM)whodey4life84 Wrote: Were you typing with a straight face when you said cam has had the same amount of weapons? For some reason I believe the past 3 seasons, there has been a consensus around the NFL that the Bengals have one of the most talented and deepest rosters. I have never once heard that about the Panthers. Cam elevates his team to wins, the Bengals win despite Dalton.

(09-08-2015, 09:06 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I read this and my thought was:

If AD throws more TD's than Manning, then why would AJ start a game and why would AD losing the starting job?

I also find it funny how the media is polarized with Dalton. I did not see them cut him any slack when he had no weapons in 2014, but now we have the most awesome (unproven) weapons in the league according to one writer.

It is obvious AD is hated by the National media and that is fine, but he is not the bad QB some try to make him out to be.

(09-08-2015, 12:08 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Yeah because Steve Smith is horrible and Greg Olsen isn't better than any receiver we have other than A.J. Green. Try using your brain to think critically sometimes.

(09-08-2015, 12:16 PM)whodey4life84 Wrote: Yes a mid 30 year old Steve Smith was a huge weapon. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith,_Sr.
Yeah I'll just leave that there. Steve Smith is a good story cuz even I love his fire but he hasnt been a top wr in a looong time. The Panthers have had no legit wrs since cam been there. Ill give you Greg Olsen but that's it. They have had no depth and their rbs have literally been injured every year hes been there. Please tell me off the top of your head who the panthers starting wrs will be this year without google. Lmao you guys are too funny.

(09-08-2015, 11:14 AM)xavierdude Wrote: yeah and  if billy hamilton could actually hit major league pitching and get on base he would be a great player with his speed..but he cant..how many more playoff appearances are you going to neglect,,my god man ..dalton melts under pressure..I mean some of the stuff he does under pressure in big games is comical..like a jr high quarterback

when Mc Carron was playing with the first stringers..and was under pressure..he did not implode..he fought through it and made accurate passes..unlike mr dalton

(09-08-2015, 11:44 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: its not...  but using flacco against dalton is stupid when it was the D and run game that got flacco and the ravens those early wins.   Not even the All mighty peyton didnt get his first until year five i believe.