(12-18-2018, 11:39 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: ....and for Joe Mixon to run rough shod all over their punk asses like they have us so many times. I want personal fouls on olinemen. Geno Atkins to put Pig Pens head on a spear. Erickson to run a kick back for a TD. A blocked kick. Driskel for 500 yds and 50 more on the ground. John Ross to finally go off.


Hey.....a man can dream. But wouldn't that be nice?

(12-19-2018, 01:01 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Outside of the Steelers, Marvin is 35-60-2 against teams with winning records.

WITH the Steelers included, Marvin is 37-79-2 against teams with winning records.

And this is EXCLUDING playoff losses. Or else Marvin would be 35-65-2 (w/o Steelers), or 37-86-2 if you include the Steelers.

That means Marvin is 2-19 against the Steelers when they have a winning record. Or 2-21 if you include playoffs.
An abysmal .095
Or .087 if you include playoffs

Marvin's percentage is .371 against teams with winning records throughout 16 years.
Or .322 if you include the Steelers.

Include playoffs?
.353 without Steelers.
.304 with the Steelers.

(12-19-2018, 01:01 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Outside of the Steelers, Marvin is 35-60-2 against teams with winning records.

WITH the Steelers included, Marvin is 37-79-2 against teams with winning records.

And this is EXCLUDING playoff losses. Or else Marvin would be 35-65-2 (w/o Steelers), or 37-86-2 if you include the Steelers.

That means Marvin is 2-19 against the Steelers when they have a winning record. Or 2-21 if you include playoffs.
An abysmal .095
Or .087 if you include playoffs

Marvin's percentage is .371 against teams with winning records throughout 16 years.
Or .322 if you include the Steelers.

Include playoffs?
.353 without Steelers.
.304 with the Steelers.

(12-18-2018, 08:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that most of us have always known that Marvin is a pretty good coach, and that he always seems to falter in our rivalry games.  Kind of goes the same for the Playoff and Monday Night games, as well.

(12-18-2018, 10:26 PM)Older Than You Too Wrote: Marv is below average at best and totally overrated as a defensive guru. Those mid 90's Steelers LBs could have coached themselves they were so good, same for the Ravens D. Marv is like a really, really poor man's Phil Jackson, but with 1/13th the success. And most of Marv's success here has come when he's had good coordinators to lean on.

(12-19-2018, 11:25 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: maybe he still works for Pittsburgh. lol

(12-19-2018, 11:38 AM)Pat5775 Wrote: Bingo.

Marv is far from what anyone should consider to be a “good coach”. He seems far more interested in blame shifting his lackadaisical approach to coaching up players as they just “need to do a better job”. It’s their football team, they need to find a way to fix it

Marvin doesnt get it. He doesn’t know how to coach up players. He doesn’t understand in-game adjustments are a real thing. He’ll go into prevent mode as soon as he has a lead. His team lacks basic tackling fundamentals. They’ re completely undisciplined. They’re mentally weak.

All of these point to a bad coach. Sure, he has won plenty of games. But there’s much more that goes into someone being a good/bad coach than just wins and losses (especially when it really counts... nothing like seeing 16 years worth of Marvs players fold like cheap lawn chairs in big games)

(12-18-2018, 11:39 PM)Wyche Wrote: ....and for Joe Mixon to run rough shod all over their punk asses like they have us so many times. I want personal fouls on olinemen. Geno Atkins to put Pig Pens head on a spear. Erickson to run a kick back for a TD. A blocked kick. Driskel for 500 yds and 50 more on the ground. John Ross to finally go off.


Hey.....a man can dream. But wouldn't that be nice?

(12-18-2018, 08:41 PM)Bengalsrob Wrote: Another fun totally irrelevant fact: Mike Tomlin has NEVER had a losing season thanks in part to two virtually guaranteed over the Bengals every year!

(12-19-2018, 01:43 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: 4 if you count the browns. They only need to win 6 other games to get in the playoffs.

(12-19-2018, 01:43 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: 4 if you count the browns. They only need to win 6 other games to get in the playoffs.

(12-19-2018, 10:11 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I've looked at his record against playoff bound teams in a given season and it's just as pathetic ! He gets beat like a drum by all the better teams on a regular basis, and has for 16 seasons.

(12-20-2018, 04:12 AM)TKUHL Wrote: Just shows how bad we need a coach that can win in the AFCN specifically against Pitt. Numbers have a funny way of spinning Marvin's legacy here. I know at one time and still may be, he had an outstanding record against NFC teams. But in the end the 0-7 playoff record trumps everything.

(12-20-2018, 11:54 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not a pathetic record. He is in the top half of the league in wins and winning percentage aganist playoff teams.

His record needs to improve but you cant call it pathetic when it is better than most of the other teams.

(12-20-2018, 11:54 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not a pathetic record. He is in the top half of the league in wins and winning percentage aganist playoff teams.

His record needs to improve but you cant call it pathetic when it is better than most of the other teams.

(12-18-2018, 07:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Since Marvin took over as head coach only 4 teams in the league have more wins against teams that finished with a winning record (NE, DEN, PITT, IND).  But since only two teams have played more games against teams with winning records his winning percentage is just 12th best.  I'd say that is still a lot higher than many people would think.  But here is the bad part.

Bengals have 38 wins against winning teams other than Steelers.
Steelers have 38 wins against winning teams other than Bengals.

Bengals have 4 wins against Steelers when they finished with a winning record.
Steelers have 19 wins against Bengals when they finished with a winning record.