(05-12-2019, 10:12 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I think a lot of people here are actually cool with bullying and sexist remarks. They just can't admit it.

(05-12-2019, 10:12 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I think a lot of people here are actually cool with bullying and sexist remarks.  They just can't admit it.

(05-12-2019, 10:22 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: I’m thinking you don’t give a lot of people credit. For myself, not into bullying at all. However, if laughing at a sexist joke I read makes me a bad guy, then yes, I’m one of the guilty ones. People are too thin skinned these days. People should learn to laugh at themselves more often and embrace their imperfections. I have flaws and family and friends call me out on them all the time in humor. But I guess that’s just the way we are and not all are the same. These are the people I love being surrounded by in both work and home life.

I understand what your saying tho.

(05-12-2019, 10:52 AM)Nately120 Wrote: This is the part of this mindset that baffles me the most.  Back in the good ol' days you couldn't show a married couple in the same bed, couldn't show a toilet on TV or an album cover, say the word pregnant, or show Elvis' swiveling hips for fear of mass-hysteria.  But yes, now people are super offended about stuff.

Hell, when I was a kid Mortal Kombat, the Simpsons, and Beavis & Butthead were going to usher in the apocalypse.  People have always been thin-skinned.  With that being said, Jim Turner is a jackass and if the Steelers hired him we'd be laughing at what filthy jerks they are.  I hope he's good at his job here, because he sure hain't winning any personality points.

(05-11-2019, 08:32 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I clearly mentioned the obligatory Hobson fluff, before I said a word about any actual content.  How more unbiased can I be?

(05-12-2019, 10:52 AM)Nately120 Wrote: This is the part of this mindset that baffles me the most.  Back in the good ol' days you couldn't show a married couple in the same bed, couldn't show a toilet on TV or an album cover, say the word pregnant, or show Elvis' swiveling hips for fear of mass-hysteria.  But yes, now people are super offended about stuff.

Hell, when I was a kid Mortal Kombat, the Simpsons, and Beavis & Butthead were going to usher in the apocalypse.  People have always been thin-skinned.  With that being said, Jim Turner is a jackass and if the Steelers hired him we'd be laughing at what filthy jerks they are.  I hope he's good at his job here, because he sure hain't winning any personality points.

(05-12-2019, 09:34 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: I'll get bashed for this but who cares.  It's not Zack Taylor or the Bengals job to instill morals in society through their football team.  It's the NFL, these guys get paid to win football games of which the public pay to see.  If I'm paying I want to see wins.  Get the best people to help do that.  

(05-12-2019, 06:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Back then, you wouldn't see a sportscaster lose his job because he made a joke about Elvis' hip-swiveling or Mortal Kombat. That's the difference between today's thin skin and yesteryear's.

(05-12-2019, 10:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You do realize people lost their jobs because of things they said and did and even didn't say or didn't do back then?  Look up the term "blacklisting."

(05-12-2019, 06:42 AM)bengaloo Wrote: I have no issue with Turner. I tried pretty hard to allow the butthurt he caused people to cause me to feel some too, but it never picked up any steam in my emotional core. I guess I would've had to be the direct victim to actually feel it. One thing I do know, if we were to only allow perfect people who have never said or done anything to hurt or offend someone to have careers, society would probably implode. There would be very few job positions actually filled and real life production would halt.

Love how the players talk about him. Williams called him a great guy and great coach in his video interview. It seems to me that 99.5% of the players he's coached feel that way. He may be exactly what this OL has needed.

(05-11-2019, 10:55 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In typical Geoff Hobson tradition, he let's us know that the new prospects look like potential All-World players.

Once you get past the obligatory fluff of the new guys, the article focuses on OL coach Jim Turner, and has some decent feedback from Michael Jordan and Jonah Williams.

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-line-up-the-rookies

(05-12-2019, 10:12 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I think a lot of people here are actually cool with bullying and sexist remarks.  They just can't admit it.

(05-11-2019, 08:36 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think it's great that he's going to make them do things right.

Not sure that chewing them out constantly is going to work long-term though. We'll see. Guys typically seem to tire of that.

I'd be interested in hearing more about his scheme.

(05-13-2019, 07:19 PM)JSR18 Wrote: I don't know, seemed to work for Zimmer's defense...

(05-11-2019, 01:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Kind of surprised that no one has had any thoughts to express.  Personally, I find the insight into Turner to be quite refreshing.  When he was hired, many on here acted like the sky had fallen, and this was likely the worst choice that Zac Taylor could have made.  However, from what I've read about Turner, he's very detail oriented and a firm believer in trusting the plan and learning to execute it to perfection.

The fact that our new OL prospects seem to buy into what Turner is selling, reassures me that Taylor did the right thing, in bringing in his guy to coach the OL.

(05-13-2019, 10:14 AM)grampahol Wrote: You really have to wonder if Turner, the disciplinarian is personally exempt from all the ballyhooed discipline he's supposed to instill in our O-line.. 
For someone who's supposed to have such a high rating in discipline he seems to be lacking in it himself.. Odd how that works, huh? 
Personally I hope he's ultimately successful in Cincinnati, but in no way am I buying into this so called discipline.. If he's going to set by example he better learn to reign in his own loose tongue.