(10-02-2019, 11:12 PM)Andy2AJ Wrote: Hey drew sample was the best blocking tight end available! Think how much he will help our offensive line and the screen pass if we ever get it to mixon

(10-02-2019, 10:20 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Weather I think so or not, means nothing.  A football team is like a family, a certain group dynamic controls the attitude and tempo of the entity.  At one point, this team will remember their professional pride, and decide that they have had enough of the free fall.  They will likely regroup, and show some sort of renewed enthusiasm, and yes, likely win a few games.

Lord knows that the OL could use one of those "pride or die" type of meetings, and the defense as well.  It will happen, as soon as our rookie coach decides that he's had enough, and realizes that it's time to take a different approach.

So yes, I do think that some things are going to change over the next 12 weeks.  Do I think that this team will transform into an unstoppable force?  Hell no.  Do I think that they will figure out who's here to play and who's just along for the ride?  Most definitely.

(10-03-2019, 08:09 AM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Yes.

Certainly outside of the first two rounds - and our first round pick is unavailable due to injury - I wouldn't be expecting rookies to start weeks 1-4. 

For rounds 3 and below in weeks 1-4 I'd expect to see growing pains in whatever limited actions they see. Weeks 5-12 I'd expect to see signs of improvement amidst the inconsistent play. Weeks 13-16 I'd hope to see them display greater consistency in an increased role.

You build through the draft, but it's not an immediate fix with the later rounds as you are essentially drafting players to groom to become starters in years 2 and 3.

As to which players develop, that remains to be seen. It's unlikely that they all will but it's equally unlikely that none of them will. How this draft crop develops for the rest of the season is  probably the single most important factor for determining the Bengals' future. If they develop under the coaching staff it will give Coach Taylor the authority to make more big calls when it comes to personnel (Free agent signings! Trades!). If they flop it's unlikely that the Front Office will give Coach Taylor license to make the Franchise changing overhaul that is needed.

(10-03-2019, 10:23 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: This thread is valid. IF you're not going to sign impact free agents, then you need guys through the draft who can make an impact Day 1.

We've had none.

Now, IF Jonah was healthy, one would expect him to be a starter and hopefully atleast playing decent. But, yeah the Sample pick appears to be really bad. Especially when I see other rookie TE's producing.

(10-03-2019, 10:32 AM)BengalChris Wrote: Boyd, for example, was a good 2nd round pick. He put 600 receiving yards as a rookie. Mixon was another, so was Bates.

 

(10-03-2019, 10:29 AM)BengalChris Wrote: No Bengals coach that I can recall, other than Paul Brown, had that kind of power as Bengals HC. Marvin Lewis certainly didn't, he had input but the decision rested with Mike Brown.

 

(10-02-2019, 09:18 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Man, it's too early for this shit. At least wait for the offseason to arrive..

(10-03-2019, 02:17 AM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Lol. Yes that’s usually the case. But argue the Sample pick n on draft day weekend you’ll be tar n feathered. I thought it was the worst pick ever but what do I know. I’m just a fan.

(10-03-2019, 02:29 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Some people don’t get that if you criticize something that it doesn’t make you a hater. Oh well.

(10-03-2019, 09:48 AM)grampahol Wrote: You'd be a real fan if you squandered boatloads of cash to erect a Bengals man cave complete with a genuine, authentic autographed poster of Mikey in his golf cart.  I bet you never even considered getting one of them now didja? 
By the way..a REAL cave carved from REAL stone from the center of the earth.. None of that mere spare bedroom or empty part  of a garage mancave nonsense..

(10-03-2019, 02:42 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: And people that call the people who criticize 'haters'...are criticizing themselves.

(10-03-2019, 02:48 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Yep. I’m just curious as to why people graded the draft as an A. Did they actually see something or was it purely emotional? The team should be stacked because every year the Bengals fans grade the draft an A.

(10-03-2019, 02:23 PM)jason Wrote: Are you surprised? One week into camp some here were trashing Finley because he was struggling in practice... Now some are calling for him to be the starter moving forward.

(10-03-2019, 02:42 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: And people that call the people who criticize 'haters'...are criticizing themselves.

(10-03-2019, 03:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: No, not surprised at all.  In fact, I'm all for people making legitimate complaints about the team, and offering their take on feasible solutions.  It's just that several just seem to just like to throw out some random crap, and hope that others will jump on board with some half-baked idea.

(10-03-2019, 04:00 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Really aren't there some on both sides that do that?

Re: Taylor - He had something like the 123rd ranked offense out of 128 at UC. Then at Miami, when he took over for Lazor, the offense actually got worse. So there's statistics that backup him being a bad or mediocre OC. Yet people will talk about how innovative he is.

Or getting behind the Sample pick. Sample was actually surprised he got drafted in the 2nd Round. I read this. It's out there. Yet fans got all excited about the pick.

(10-03-2019, 04:20 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Well, I didn't name any names or cleverly allude toward any specific member on purpose, as my aim wasn't to single anyone out or for any members to feel pressured in any way.  I was just stating my opinion.

FWIW, I don't consider you one of the people who just "randomly throws some shit out there"..