(10-07-2019, 03:15 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Blowing it up isn't really practical.  This isn't Madden and there's a limit to what you can do.  There are very few guys on this roster that will bring a first or second rounder.

That being said, here are a few moves that would return the value that the Bengals need:

1.  I hate it, but if the rumors of the Bengals being able to get a first rounder for AJ Green, you have to do it.
2.  Carlos Dunlap.  There are a few teams that need a good pass rusher.  He could be a nice addition for a team looking for a pass rusher.
3.  Geno Atkins.  You don't hear much about him, but if you could get a late first/2nd rounder, have at it.

Another idea that may make sense:

Trent Williams for AJ Green straight up. Both in their 30s, Williams wants out and Washington could use a guy like AJ for Haskins development.

(10-07-2019, 02:50 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Trade every player over 30 that you can get a 1st to 3rd round pick for....rebuild it now....go draft your QB of the future (it is not Finley)...draft 2 more OL and a couple LBers...we still have a good core of young players to build around...  Just do not wait and string it out...  It needs to be done immediately..WHODEY

(10-07-2019, 05:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why?
Sign Good LB's in FA and draft the crap out of OL.

Grab that Andrew guy from Georgia, I don't care of him and Jonah are both LT's in the NFL, best one gets LT, other is RT, grab that Center from Wisconsin in round 2, get RT Back up (in case one of our T's get hurt)/RG in round 3 and 4.

(10-07-2019, 05:14 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Billings will be expensive and doesn't play a premium position. You might be able to get a comp 3rd pick for him in a trade. Plus we have  Topu, Glasgow, and Wrenn at nose for the future.

(10-07-2019, 06:09 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Topou has flashed but he's inconsistent. I think Glasgow still isn't 100% from his injury and Wren has been pretty bad. 

I agree that there are options, but none of them quite do what Billings can do. I guess it comes down to what his asking price ultimately is.

(10-07-2019, 05:19 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Why trade Geno & Los there good players on team friendly deals? Also we have full control of AJ with the franchise Tag? Why trade him.
Eifert is the only one of those guys I would trade before the deadline(to be clear I would cut Smith, Brown, and Vigil. It's not even worth the effort looking for a trade partner there) but you probably get a 6th in return.
I would trade Dalton in the off-season probably can get a third or 4th in return for him.

(10-07-2019, 05:50 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: IF we want to maximize the current roster...that's the path to doing it. Draft another Tackle. Release or trade Glenn. Sign another Guard like Quentin Spain.

AND add a LB in free agency.

That said, IF AJ Green leaves or Mixon holds out...that kind of forces our hand somewhat.

(10-07-2019, 06:14 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I wouldn't be against keeping them. I said in another thread i'd keep Los, and right now i'd still try and trade Geno because you could still get a lot for him. There's a logjam at DT and Geno isn't producing like he once did. Get while the gettin's good with him. 

I'm just tired of the half-assing going on with this team. Either jettison the older guys and get some picks and allow the younger guys to develop...or get Conklin and Littleton in FA, use the draft wisely and get #14 the hell out of here. 

(10-07-2019, 05:19 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Why trade Geno & Los there good players on team friendly deals? Also we have full control of AJ with the franchise Tag? Why trade him.
Eifert is the only one of those guys I would trade before the deadline(to be clear I would cut Smith, Brown, and Vigil. It's not even worth the effort looking for a trade partner there) but you probably get a 6th in return.
I would trade Dalton in the off-season probably can get a third or 4th in return for him.

(10-07-2019, 06:25 PM)scorp1974 Wrote: Because they are all past their prime and we are 2-3 years from being competitive.  In 3 years they wont be productive anymore so trade them now while there is still value there.  Geno, Carlos, AJ and Eifert are about the only ones on the roster that could be valuable to a contender that we could let go.  Players like Boyd, Mixon, Lawson, Bates, Jackson and other younger guys are the future hopefully...dont let them walk.

(10-07-2019, 06:31 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: and have little to no drop off in QB play then we are a playoff team next season.

(10-07-2019, 06:42 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: But what about the playoffs this season?

(10-07-2019, 07:03 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Yeah thats out window

(10-07-2019, 07:28 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Mathematically no, but yes we know. Just having a little fun in a burning house.

(10-07-2019, 07:34 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Honestly, what a shame being this terrible now. Our division is the weakest it's been in years. Our 2015 team would probably go 5-1 or 6-0 in this easy division.

Of course, we know the Steelers would probably beat us with their 3rd string QB...because that's what they do.

(10-07-2019, 02:50 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Trade every player over 30 that you can get a 1st to 3rd round pick for....rebuild it now....go draft your QB of the future (it is not Finley)...draft 2 more OL and a couple LBers...we still have a good core of young players to build around...  Just do not wait and string it out...  It needs to be done immediately..WHODEY

(10-07-2019, 03:03 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Speaking of Duke Tobin... who is he? What exactly does he do? When did the organization hire him? Is he a Brown family relative? What are his qualifications? And most importantly... can he be fired?

(10-07-2019, 03:01 PM)bengals67 Wrote: I would add the Alabama LT we drafted and Hopkins as a center. They need to be kept.

They also need a new Duke Tobin person- not sure of his title- and a serious investment in scouts.
SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO OWNER? KIND OF LIKE HUE LAST YEAR AND MAE
RVIN THIS YEAR
None of this will happen. Mike will keep things as they are and no one will be traded.

Lost decade II here we come.