(11-04-2019, 03:01 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Wow, 2 more losses and he will be tied with Tom Landry, who started at 0-10. And look how bad he tuned out.....      The Drama sure is getting deep around here.....

(11-04-2019, 04:24 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Offseason Narrative: Taylor will come in with a modern scheme and coach guys up!
In Season Narrative: Nobody could win here with this front office!

Meanwhile, Miami gutted their roster and is trying to lose and won a game!

(11-04-2019, 02:22 PM)Nately120 Wrote: ZT also likes to call 2 yard passes on 4th and long. 

(11-04-2019, 02:32 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think there was a sentiment on the board that ANY coach could come in and be better than Marvin.

The more astute of us knew that it could go south.

(11-04-2019, 05:15 PM)TheUberHuber Wrote: Well, he didnt lose this past weekend

(11-04-2019, 05:14 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: yes the board as a whole was wrong about ZT it appears....  It could get better but how long we willing to wait.

(11-04-2019, 01:43 PM)jj22 Wrote: I think people are too excited to post things like this. I could see if he wasn't a top choice for HC on the board. I think it was between him and E.B. But people didn't hate the hire, to be so quick to highlight his failure.

Now he may go down as one of the worst coaches, but we shouldn't misdirect our anger by cheering his failure when the failure is really on MB and Co.

Some of these posts seem to gleeful he is failing.

No matter what happens, how can anyone blame him for failing?

There probably will never be a Marvin Lewis who can put up with this circus. That's props to Marvin no doubt, but shouldn't be the expectation for every NFL caliber HC.

(11-05-2019, 05:10 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: My personal favorite was the 4th down call against AZ  - "The Cincy Special." 4th and 2. Dalton lines up in the shotgun. He faked. No, he PRETENDED to fake. Then he pulled a Sanchize and ran straight into the belly of the beast, only to be carried out like he was being thrown out of a bar on St. Patty's Day after being overserved.

(11-05-2019, 03:21 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: IMO, you need to give Zac a full offeason, without the late start of this past one, in order to see what he does, what changes he can possibly make and what players he will go after.

I think he came in somewhat dependent on Duke and the crew this year and followed their lead to some extent. I want to see if he exerts himself in the offseason and what that looks like in terms of moves and acquisitions...which would also mean things like finding a new DC and O-line coach, and maybe even an experienced OC. 

It's just hard for me to evaluate him this year given the complete shit show that is this team. How much of it is what he inherited, combined with a total failure of an offseason, and how much is Zac's doing, with his staff choices and his own coaching?

I'm not defending or criticizing Zac. I just honestly don't know what to make of him at this point. I would like to see one more season though before we make a determination one way or another. If we're still seeing many of the same issues and little progress being made next season, then I have no problem saying he isn't the guy and moving on.

(11-05-2019, 05:59 PM)R3stangs Wrote: Once the quarterback has the ball,

he fakes to the left.

No. He fakes to the right.

He doesn't fake.

He thinks about faking.

He pretends to fake.

I don't know

where I am.

I can't breathe.




Holy Crap. I know what the problem is now. Turner is using Coach Kleins playbook!

(11-04-2019, 02:32 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think there was a sentiment on the board that ANY coach could come in and be better than Marvin.

The more astute of us knew that it could go south.

(11-06-2019, 11:43 AM)HuDey Wrote: Taylor has not looked good that is for sure, but should we really be burying him a half season in?

He inherited a crumbling roster with MAJOR holes at some position groups, and of course he gets no help from our award winning front office. This team needed a major rebuild before he got here and it was going to be bad regardless of who the head coach was. Granted he made some really sketchy choices for his staff and that looks bad on him, but maybe some of that was due to guys not wanting to work for Mike Brown or not being available at that point in the offseason.

It looks bad. No argument there. I will give Taylor credit for making the decision to change QB's, I don't think that happens if Marvin is still here. I am going to take it as a positive that he is willing to make changes when things obviously aren't working, but I am interested to see if he will extend that approach to other areas of the roster, his play calling, and his coaching staff as well. I guess what I am saying is that I will withhold judgement on him until I see what adjustments he makes going into next season.

(11-04-2019, 02:22 PM)Nately120 Wrote: ZT also likes to call 2 yard passes on 4th and long.