(11-15-2019, 02:18 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Garrett should certainly be gone for a long time.

Mason should get a game or one hell of a fine for starting the whole damn thing and pulling off Garrett's helmet.

Pouncey, done....multiple games.

DeCastro fine, maybe a game.

Ouchiboe....however you spell that, he should get a fine or a game too for the cheap shot on Rudolph.


Trash all around.

(11-15-2019, 10:56 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: 1 singular fact was confirmed last night.

Mason Rudolph is a b1tch.  Andy would whoop that trick.

(11-15-2019, 02:43 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Sorry, due.  I have to disagree.  After the helmet swing Pouncey's reactions are totally understandable 


Garret should be gone for good, lifetime ban.  Pouncey should get two, will probably get three and Oke will get two.  Bush league crap by Cleveland.

(11-15-2019, 04:04 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: You will have to forgive me if i'm skeptical of a Steelers fans opinion. You are one of the few steelers fans whom i can "talk" to without letting my bitter hatred for that team, seep into my opinion of the person i'm talking to, but that doesn't keep you from supporting your team...in a way i may not agree with. So, keep in mind, even if i get a bit edgy in my reply, it's not personal. It's just me being as frank and honest as i can about something that happened on a football field. 

Re: Garrett, I wouldn't blink an eye or think bad of it if he was banned permanently. 

With that said, steelers fans have a long history of forgiving or excusing their own players misconduct while calling for excessive punishment when it's any other team. I don't excuse Garrett even one fraction of a percentage for what he did, after Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off, unsuccessfully. 

That being said, Rudolph did try and rip his helmet off. For what reason, i don't know. Maybe he was trying to show what a tough guy he is. Maybe he was pissed off from the interceptions, the sacks and the fact they were getting beat by the Browns. More than likely, all of that is true. Rudolphs actions aside and Garrett's actions aside, Pouncy showed what a punk he is (and it's not the first time) by what he did. He's no better than anyone and "protecting his QB" is a ridiculous excuse that's being thrown around by several people. It's total bullshit. 

David DeCastro was able to subdue Garrett without throwing a single punch or kick. HE'S the only guy that acted appropriately in this whole instance. Pouncy was being Pouncy, a punk and an asshole but all the talk is what a great teammate he is. To that i say, "my ass". 

You're not more of a man or more of a teammate if you swing on someone because they hurt your QBs feelings. I'm not even saying i wouldn't do the same, i probably would. That would make me a punk and an asshole too, but i wouldn't deny it. 

I don't give two shits about the Browns or Steelers. I have distaste for both of them, for different reasons. 

Switching gears....if we're going to play the this game...then the Browns were perfectly in their right to do what they did because of all the times Steelers players speared one of their guys in the face or kicked them during a punt return, or basically, making them their ***** twice a year forever. The shoe was on the other foot and now Steelers fans don't like it. 

If someone tries to make the argument that lowering your head and spearing a QB in the face isn't the same as hitting him in the head with a helmet (in the exact way Garrett hit Rudolph), then i'm not going to bother arguing, because it's just as dangerous and wrong. My very first, initial reaction was, "holey shit! he's lucky he didn't get hit with the crown", because that shit could be fatal. But he didn't. 


As an aside, I won't even begin to pretend that i was up in arms with some of the things Vontaze Burfict did to the Steelers, even at the expense of hurting the team. Steelers always provoke shit, when they're not going over the line, then cry foul when someone does it to them so i had more than a few snickers when Burfict would do something to get under their skin. That's a damn sad and stupid state to be in but it's an "understandable" human reaction when a team you root for is a doormat for so long. 

Long story short; if a duck is a duck, call it a duck, not a pretty swan. 

(11-15-2019, 11:25 AM)jason Wrote: Gotta disagree about Pouncey... Miles Garrett didn't hurt Rudolph's feelings... He could've killed him by doing that. Miles Garrett violated every norm when he swing that helmet at his head.

(11-15-2019, 11:07 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Rudolph was pissed, I get it. 4 ints. sacked and hit many times, lost the game. Garrett took him down well after ball was gone. However he's not just the innocent victim. He was twisting and turning Garrett's head on the ground trying to rip his helmet off.

Rudolph should get a hefty fine and 1 or 2 game suspension.

Pouncey threw several bunches at a defenseless man being held to the ground and even kicked. He should get giant fine and 3 or 4 game suspension.

Ogunjiobi should probably get a fine, perhaps 1 or 2 game suspension.

Decastro should not be fined or suspended.

Then we come to Garrett. Throwing punches, shoving, taking down is one thing. Swinging a helmet at a players unprotected head and hitting him ! He could easily be charged with assault, perhaps should be, I doubt it will happen.

Garrett should be gone for the rest of the season, however long it is. Going into next season wouldn't surprise me. Should pay a giant fine on top of the missed games pay.

(11-15-2019, 11:39 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I get what you're saying. But as the saying goes two wrongs don't make a right. If Pouncey would have knocked Garrett down, even threw a punch while Garrett was standing up.....ok 

Pouncey was whaling on a defenseless man pinned to the ground and even kicked him. At that point he's no longer "protecting" 

(11-15-2019, 11:45 AM)jason Wrote: My dislike of the Steelers is strong, and the rational side of me agrees with you... But in the heat of that moment when something so egregious had just taken place, that's what's going to happen. If that were Andy Dalton or Finley, and one of our guys didn't act the same way, I'd be disappointed. He'll be punished, but I understand why he did that. That's just human nature to respond when the level of violence goes above and beyond.

What Miles Garrett did was ****** up. Right up there with taking a bath to a dugout clearing brawl.

(11-15-2019, 12:02 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Seriously.  That there are people actually defending Garrett because Rudolph, "started it" makes me weep for humanity.

(11-15-2019, 10:02 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Burfict has his popcorn ready...

(11-15-2019, 12:37 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: He pulled at the helmet of a Browns player then a three hundred pound lineman pushing him backwards while Rudolph came at him. Yeah I say EL KABONG that MFER.

(11-15-2019, 12:58 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Gee, Bengals and Steelers always seems to end in a brawl  or dirty shots of some sort. Browns and Steelers now ends with a brawl and dirty shots throughout the game. What's the common denominator here????

(11-15-2019, 12:49 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Spoken like a true punk.