(12-30-2019, 02:07 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: This is the Jungle noise section not the nfl section.

(12-30-2019, 02:15 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: All three teams beat teams without their starters or were playing lesser teams. While the Bengals played the Battle of Ohio and beat a team who had six times the wins the Bengals had. Who Dey!!!

(12-30-2019, 02:23 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: What? The title of your thread is referring to an NFL award. If you want to have a different conversation then title your thread appropriately.

The idea that Zach Taylor is deserving of the coach of the week award is just plain stupid. Period.

(12-30-2019, 02:30 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Um... Tom Brady played for the Patriots this week when the Dolphins beat them.

Or are you calling the Patriots a lesser team to the Dolphins?

(12-30-2019, 02:34 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: The way they finished the season yes.

(12-30-2019, 02:15 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: All three teams beat teams without their starters or were playing lesser teams.

(12-30-2019, 02:34 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: The way they finished the season yes.

(12-30-2019, 02:33 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: I am sure you are one of the haters who refuse to have any optimism about Zac and that is stupid.

(12-17-2019, 08:32 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Fwiw, I am not one of those who want Taylor gone after the season. I do like the way he handles himself, handles his team (chemistry building and approach), and he seems like a all-in-all pretty good dude.

People need to consider the envriorment he walked into, and what he was given to work with. He was given no help in free agency, and I'm not so sure he's completely to blame for the staff hired. (Could be budget influenced, could be it that it shouldn't be his call anyway).

I do think he's over his head in total responsibility, as this job probably carries more duties than most. And I definitely do not want him calling plays in the future.

Surround with him two legitimate, experienced coordinators...Have him relinquish play calling duties... Look at possible position coaching upgrades... Give him a few quality free agents... And let him build his culture. Unless next year is the same then giving a couple years and sse what he can do.

He's made into too easy of a scapegoat. And people forget many of his public comments are just parroting of the FO. He may certainly share blame here for this season but it would be foolish to scrap it and start over after just one year.

PS Everyone needs to quit blaming him for Drew Sample. 30 something offensive minded coaches don't covet blocking tight ends early in the draft, after inheriting a losing roster filled with holes. I refuse to believe he was the one campaigning for that pick. That has Mike Brown and his 1970's approach written all over it!

(12-30-2019, 01:28 PM)Nately120 Wrote: So in your mind we are letting a QB who can take us deep into the playoffs leave?  Wouldnt you rather take Chase Young and make a push that way with AJ and Jonah healthy?

(12-30-2019, 01:27 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You want to give the Coach of the Week award to a guy who beat a 6-10 team at home, in a meaningless game with zero playoff implications?

I mean, let's look at this logically.  Yes, it was a nice way to close out the year. But just look at these couple other wins...

-The Niners just beat the Seahawks IN SEATTLE to not only win the West but to secure the #1 seed in the playoffs.

-The Titans beat a 10-5 Texans team IN HOUSTON 35-14 in a must win game to put them in the playoffs.

Do you honestly believe Taylor is more deserving than these coaches?  I understand wanting to give some props, appreciating ending on a high note, looking on the bright-side...I get that. But I don't get creating ridiculous talking points.

I honestly wonder is some post without thinking at all or if they're just oblivious to the rest of the league. What a laughable talking point it is for him to be considered for coach of the week.

Be better.

(12-30-2019, 01:27 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: You want to give the Coach of the Week award to a guy who beat a 6-10 team at home, in a meaningless game with zero playoff implications?

I mean, let's look at this logically.  Yes, it was a nice way to close out the year. But just look at these couple other wins...

-The Niners just beat the Seahawks IN SEATTLE to not only win the West but to secure the #1 seed in the playoffs.

-The Titans beat a 10-5 Texans team IN HOUSTON 35-14 in a must win game to put them in the playoffs.

Do you honestly believe Taylor is more deserving than these coaches?  I understand wanting to give some props, appreciating ending on a high note, looking on the bright-side...I get that. But I don't get creating ridiculous talking points.

I honestly wonder is some post without thinking at all or if they're just oblivious to the rest of the league. What a laughable talking point it is for him to be considered for coach of the week.

Be better.

(12-30-2019, 01:54 PM)bengaloo Wrote: Zac definitely wins coach of the week in the state of Ohio hands down.

(12-30-2019, 05:00 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Nope, while I think with the right team Andy can go deep into the playoffs, I think Burrow can do more 

(12-30-2019, 07:23 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Yep. It's so interesting how such a dismal season has lowered what some consider to be progress. This season was anything but progress. Bad schemes made by coaches who "know better than everyone else". This group of coaches fits right in with the Mike Brown, who is suffering from the same exact mental problem.

This team lost to two winless teams, got beat like drum in most games, then loses to a team that traded its best players away for a big draft next season.

There's so much to dislike about how the Bengals played this year, about how they were coached (or not coached depending on what you consider coaching to be) and about how embarrassing they looked most of the time.

If Fred Kitchens deserved to fired after going 6-10 in his first season, then this Taylor fellow deserves to be packed up and shipped out of town on a rocket.

AJ Green being down hurt, but he and Dalton missed a lot of last season. Could you imagine how this team would had finished the season with Finley in there the last 6 games of the season? We'd likely not have had even 1 win.

Does anyone honestly believe this team would have gone 2-14 under Marvin this season? I don't think so.

 

(12-30-2019, 07:23 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Yep. It's so interesting how such a dismal season has lowered what some consider to be progress. This season was anything but progress. Bad schemes made by coaches who "know better than everyone else". This group of coaches fits right in with the Mike Brown, who is suffering from the same exact mental problem.

This team lost to two winless teams, got beat like drum in most games, then loses to a team that traded its best players away for a big draft next season.

There's so much to dislike about how the Bengals played this year, about how they were coached (or not coached depending on what you consider coaching to be) and about how embarrassing they looked most of the time.

If Fred Kitchens deserved to fired after going 6-10 in his first season, then this Taylor fellow deserves to be packed up and shipped out of town on a rocket.

AJ Green being down hurt, but he and Dalton missed a lot of last season. Could you imagine how this team would had finished the season with Finley in there the last 6 games of the season? We'd likely not have had even 1 win.

Does anyone honestly believe this team would have gone 2-14 under Marvin this season? I don't think so.

 

(12-30-2019, 08:46 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Now now.  Don't say things like that 'round here.  That only makes you a Marvin lover.

I guess the team has to hit rock bottom zero wins to want a better coach.

I really suspect that people who praise Zac are those who realize it won't matter to complain because The Family is gonna do what they wanna do.

Do any of you have a notion that some players are playing hard because they hate Mayfield, want to be a starting QB somewhere and feel disrespected, or trying to look good for contracts?

Nope.  The "fight" is all Zac's great coaching skills.  It couldn't be other motives in play.

BTW the Browns are a terrible mess of egos and poor coaching. 

That is why they're 6-10 and losing to our 1-14 team with players that already had good character and know how to win.

There's no diva delusions there.  Just guys ballin' out and proving themselves.

2 wins and Zac is coach of the week?  LMFAO

(12-30-2019, 09:41 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Yes, Marvin could have pulled out 5, 6, maybe even 7 wins. Where does that get us? We needed change regardless of the outcome.