(01-05-2020, 06:41 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The second round is going to be super interesting.

Whether we go WR, LB or OT will depend entirely on who's available. Honestly, all things equal, I am leaning towards OT. Hart has a much better chance of endangering Burrow's career than having to throw to Tate rather than Jefferson (this is assuming our #1 and #2 WRs remain Green and Boyd).

If we don't re-sign Green (for some reason), then WR may become a necessity in the 2nd round.

Which, in my opinion, is all the more reason why retaining Green is extremely important to this team's 2020 campaign.

(01-05-2020, 08:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Green has missed 29 games in the last 4 seasons and wants elite money. That's a really good reason not to sign him. Tis a shame that we don't use free agency.

Instead we have to fix everything via the draft and hope we retain an injury prone expensive WR because we simply can't address every need in the draft.

Meanwhile, we could be sitting on 100+ million to completely revitalize this roster around the new franchise QB...if this were a normal franchise.

(01-05-2020, 08:40 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: You gotta work with what you have haha.

(01-05-2020, 08:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Green has missed 29 games in the last 4 seasons and wants elite money. That's a really good reason not to sign him. Tis a shame that we don't use free agency.

Instead we have to fix everything via the draft and hope we retain an injury prone expensive WR because we simply can't address every need in the draft.

Meanwhile, we could be sitting on 100+ million to completely revitalize this roster around the new franchise QB...if this were a normal franchise.

(01-05-2020, 08:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Green has missed 29 games in the last 4 seasons and wants elite money. That's a really good reason not to sign him. Tis a shame that we don't use free agency.

Instead we have to fix everything via the draft and hope we retain an injury prone expensive WR because we simply can't address every need in the draft.

Meanwhile, we could be sitting on 100+ million to completely revitalize this roster around the new franchise QB...if this were a normal franchise.

(01-05-2020, 08:52 PM)Synric Wrote: I understand the miss this amount of games angle but an Ankle Sprain is not going to scare me from the talent that is AJ Green.

(01-05-2020, 08:49 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Man, it's weird. I've rooted for and supported Andy and AJ since the day the were drafted. Now, I'm honestly just ready to move on from both. Nothing against either guy, it just feels like it's time, or very close to it at least.

(01-05-2020, 08:52 PM)Synric Wrote: I understand the miss this amount of games angle but an Ankle Sprain is not going to scare me from the talent that is AJ Green.

(01-05-2020, 08:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Green has missed 29 games in the last 4 seasons and wants elite money. That's a really good reason not to sign him. Tis a shame that we don't use free agency.

Instead we have to fix everything via the draft and hope we retain an injury prone expensive WR because we simply can't address every need in the draft.

Meanwhile, we could be sitting on 100+ million to completely revitalize this roster around the new franchise QB...if this were a normal franchise.

(01-05-2020, 09:07 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: It's like CP and Chad. Loved them, but sometimes the star players start to feel like part of the regime, and you have to move on at some point.

I think we've crossed that bridge with Dalton/Green. Just sad that we never won a playoff game with those two. Or Carson/Chad for that matter. Or Blake/Pickens/Scott. Or Dillon. Ugh.


It's not just one particular injury for me. It's the list of injuries, the age, and the price.

Combine all 3 and I just think a smart team would use that big money elsewhere.

(01-05-2020, 09:23 PM)Synric Wrote: I get the arguement against I'm just pointing out his injuries haven't been severe that could damage his performance moving forward like ACL or Achilles....They are a Hamstring Tear which is the worse Turf Toe and an Ankle Sprain that looks like turned into a holdout.

(01-05-2020, 08:19 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Green has missed 29 games in the last 4 seasons and wants elite money. That's a really good reason not to sign him. Tis a shame that we don't use free agency.

Instead we have to fix everything via the draft and hope we retain an injury prone expensive WR because we simply can't address every need in the draft.

Meanwhile, we could be sitting on 100+ million to completely revitalize this roster around the new franchise QB...if this were a normal franchise.

(01-05-2020, 10:26 PM)jason Wrote: It's all the worse when they pass on a DK Metcalf when he falls to them in favor of a blocking TE I'd never heard of...

(01-05-2020, 10:26 PM)jason Wrote: It's all the worse when they pass on a DK Metcalf when he falls to them in favor of a blocking TE I'd never heard of...

(01-06-2020, 12:22 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ...which leads me to the following: Cincinnati will take Joe Burrow with the first pick.  Not even Mikey Boy will screw this up.  That’s good.  However, in rounds two through seven, do the Front Office and the coaches even have a plan?  Based on what I saw in the 2019 Draft and the 2019 offseason, I say no.  The only plan I see is to draft Joe Burrow and hope for the best — and hope is not a strategy.  I can see Joe Burrow drafted followed by six “reaches,” “stretches,” “guys with potential,” and “future prospects.”

This scenario scares me because Joe Burrow deserves an honest shot to lead the Bengals out of the basement and if he’s surrounded by the same players it won’t happen.  It scares me because we fans deserve a winner.  Here’s what scares me most of all: The stadium lease in Hamilton County expires in 2026.  I fear the Front Office looks at Joe Burrow as the last quarterback they’ll ever have to draft and they’re just kicking the can one more time until retirement and folding the team.

(01-06-2020, 12:43 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The 2019 NFL draft was bad, but it was mostly because of Sample and Finley.

Pratt was value at the slot we took him and has shown talent in the final ~6 games of the year.
Jordan has also shown the capability to start with a strong finish to the year.

Williams and Hudson were both considered high value picks that were just too good to pass up that late in the draft. They were made a little odd of selections due to the Bernard extension though...

The Wren pick is still kinda...jury out. He was a well regarded prospect but didn't really do much for us. But we need some DT depth with Billings possibly leaving this offseason, so it wasn't a bad position to draft.

And then Davis and Brown were late round picks who didn't make the team.

Honestly, if you make Sample DK Metcalf and Finley a blocking TE (I'm sure there was one available. Maybe even Sample!), the 2019 draft was a pretty good crop, in my opinion.

We'll see how Jonah Williams does next year before we can really judge it, even preliminarily.

I just hope Sample becomes SOMETHING in his NFL career haha.

(01-05-2020, 05:29 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: I don't see how you could not take Burrow with where this franchise is.

(01-05-2020, 11:59 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I remember being scared off of DK Metcalf because of his "combine pinwheel" where he was in a high percentile in 40 yard but absolutely TANKED the agility drills.

People started saying "he can only run straight. He can't turn at all."

Taking combine results seriously really should just never be done XD.



Just makes me feel even dumber for giving our coaching staff the benefit of the doubt regarding Sample...

(01-05-2020, 04:05 PM)Joelist Wrote: A lot of draftniks are projecting Joe Burrow to us at the #1 overall pick. I wanted to look at the case for taking him in the most neutral (to current players) manner I could.

1) He does seem to possess skills we will need in the future at QB, such as pocket presence, football smarts (reading the defense and such) and work ethic. Mobility is good enough - not a jackrabbit but able to be mobile. He also seems to have excellent touch on his passes and ball placement is a strength.

2) In theory we would be able to save cap room because we would be putting a rookie seal salary on the rolls in exchange for a (in NFL terms) NFL veteran QB salary that is a bit under the average.

3) Possibility to generating some fan excitement for the franchise.

On the other hand, we might be well advised to redshirt Burrow if we take him until we stabilize the Offensive Line and know we have some targets for him to throw at. Now if we do invest in said issues in Free Agency and/or the Draft this situation kind of goes away.

I will say this - if we go Burrow (I was a Tua supporter until the injury) then I start to strongly consider going WR in Round 2 for a fast, tall WR whose scouting says can run proper routes and play the ball properly in the air (Tee Higgins or Laviska Shenault?).

(01-06-2020, 01:46 AM)jason Wrote: Yeah... He can only run straight by his defender, and go catch contested balls. But you're right, that was the knock on him. He's young though, and has improved his route running as the year went on. He's only scratched the surface. Russell Wilson has his first ever legit WR 1 in the making.

For what it's worth; I wanted to believe in Sample too. Hopefully he pans out.