(05-09-2020, 11:45 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This is the kind of move the Bengals need to win back the fan base. They could sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal and lessen the cap hit to 8 to 10 million in year #1 if they were creative.

It always amazes me the Ravens never have any cap money, yet they always seem to grab some vet after the draft. Time Katie gets creative and takes a lesson from the Ravens.

Get er done Katie.

Update, just read he only was due around 8 million in 2020 so no reason we can't afford him.

(05-09-2020, 11:45 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This is the kind of move the Bengals need to win back the fan base. They could sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal and lessen the cap hit to 8 to 10 million in year #1 if they were creative.

It always amazes me the Ravens never have any cap money, yet they always seem to grab some vet after the draft. Time Katie gets creative and takes a lesson from the Ravens.

Get er done Katie.

Update, just read he only was due around 8 million in 2020 so no reason we can't afford him.

(05-09-2020, 12:35 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: For a guy blaming Katie Blackburn for everything, you're vastly overshooting the mark on how much we should offer him. He was due 7.75m, but the Saints already paid 750k of that, so any team could've traded for him for 7m. But nobody did, suggesting that as the ceiling on his FA market. But you want to give him at least 24m over the next three years? 

More like one year, 4-5 million. He was cut because Payton wasn't happy that he couldn't keep his weight down. He made the pro bowl on reputation. I'm all in favor of bringing him in, but the worst way to do that would be to give him a multi-year deal. A one year deal incentivizes him to stay in shape (if he can't keep in shape during normal conditions what does quarantine do) to set himself up for the future. 

Criticize management all you want but at least know what you're talking about! 

(05-09-2020, 01:50 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Why attack me? 

I agree with you and was saying his cost was not 12 million plus I thought others had mentioned in this thread, but unlike you I can admit my mistakes. What are your credentials again to evaluate an OG and make a definitive statement the guy has regressed and not deserving. What are hos PFF scores last 3 years compared to our starting OG's?

Please show me one time the Bengals FO has been creative with cap space to add an all pro after the draft. I will wait.

(05-09-2020, 09:25 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: They should, but I think they honestly feel like they are good on the offensive line, which is kinda scary.

(05-09-2020, 06:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Both Taylor and Callahan were asked if they were approving of the current line by passing on linemen in the draft and neither of them really stepped up and backed the o-line. They just said that's the way things fell. They could've easily said "we're happy with the guys we have", but they didn't.

Then again, all of their actions to this point have suggested they're very content. Or someone is.

(05-09-2020, 06:59 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: I noticed that as well. In fact ZT has even mentioned that they'd consider other options that came along, and qualified his support of the OL by saying he recognizes that improvement is needed on the OL. Whether he meant players need to develop or the team needs new players was a bit vague. Callahan too seemed really unconvinced as he talked up the OL. 

And to your latter point, a guy like Warford would probably have both detractors and supporters in our front office, any front office. The fact that the Saints gave him a 750k bonus earlier in the offseason and then cut him suggests to me that their lack of support for him was far from unanimous. Point being there are likely diverse opinions in any front office. 

(05-09-2020, 07:45 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: In the end, the opinions of the people up top are all that matters, and if Mikey and co aren't interested in investing serious coin into the line, then no other opinion matters. Not saying it's Mike, but who knows? I do know he's made it clear over the years that he doesn't like spending much on interior linemen.

(05-09-2020, 01:50 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Why attack me? 

I agree with you and was saying his cost was not 12 million plus I thought others had mentioned in this thread, but unlike you I can admit my mistakes. What are your credentials again to evaluate an OG and make a definitive statement the guy has regressed and not deserving. What are hos PFF scores last 3 years compared to our starting OG's?

Please show me one time the Bengals FO has been creative with cap space to add an all pro after the draft. I will wait.

(05-09-2020, 09:22 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s never been All Pro.

(05-10-2020, 09:36 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: ???????

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29151914/saints-cut-guard-larry-warford-3-pro-bowl-seasons

(05-10-2020, 09:51 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, All-Pro is a true, highest honor.

(05-10-2020, 11:08 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Nice opinion, but not factual

(05-08-2020, 10:58 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Yeah, we start at that number from over the cap, which is like $24 million. Then we have to sign the rookies, which is like $11 million plus. But it is not a straight subtraction. When you sign a rookie it is bumping someone else OFF the roster who currently counts vs the cap. Accounting for this displacement effect, the rooks only cost us $7 million or so vs the cap.ht now. He and an extension for Mixon means we are likely right up against the cap.

(05-08-2020, 11:27 PM)Geno_Can_Dunk Wrote: I think this is exactly right. I had forgotten about the displacement effect.