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RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - jfkbengals - 06-06-2020 (06-06-2020, 12:04 AM)J24 Wrote: He was highly rated in 2017(90) and 2018(73)by PFF but had a down year last season (53). I think he is going to have a huge year this season and the Bengals will have a tough decision between him & Lawson has who they will franchise Tag next off-season. Lawson is a sub package player. He will never be taken as a consideration for the franchise tag. I doubt that even Jackson has done enough for consideration. The only candidates we have are AJ and Mixon. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - HarleyDog - 06-06-2020 (06-06-2020, 11:29 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: Lawson is a sub package player. He will never be taken as a consideration for the franchise tag. I doubt that even Jackson has done enough for consideration. The only candidates we have are AJ and Mixon. Didn’t we franchise tag a kicker once? RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - jfkbengals - 06-06-2020 (06-06-2020, 11:56 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Didn’t we franchise tag a kicker once? Yes. As the kicker is a special teams starter. There wasn't one or more guys in front of him on the depth chart at his position, as is the case for Lawson. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-06-2020 (06-05-2020, 02:56 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: The former first-round pick struggled at times last season, partially due to a torn labrum in his right shoulder. Well the injury definitely explains his dip in play. Dude could be the best Corner in the league if he could catch the ball and we need to use him in Man coverage, not Zone. That soft Zone shit needs to go, we drafted Man Corners, use them as such. And yeah, get Will Jax for the long term, he could be great. Don't want him being great somewhere else. Glad they picked up his option. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - psychdoctor - 06-07-2020 We will see what Wj3 brings this year. If he is not signed there are a couple good ones coming out in 2021 draft RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - J24 - 06-08-2020 (06-06-2020, 11:29 AM)jfkbengals Wrote: Lawson is a sub package player. He will never be taken as a consideration for the franchise tag. I doubt that even Jackson has done enough for consideration. The only candidates we have are AJ and Mixon. Lawson is a premier pass rusher easily more valuable than both Mixon and AJ(@33). Same goes for a premium CB witch Jackson has showed to be in the past. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - jfkbengals - 06-08-2020 (06-08-2020, 02:15 PM)J24 Wrote: Were he that valuable, he would see more than 43% of the defensive snaps... Don't get me wrong, I like Lawson and do want him to be here for the long term, and Jackson, but neither are elite players. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-08-2020 (06-08-2020, 02:15 PM)J24 Wrote: Lawson is a premier pass rusher easily more valuable than both Mixon and AJ(@33). Same goes for a premium CB witch Jackson has showed to be in the past. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - jason - 06-08-2020 (06-08-2020, 08:10 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Were he that valuable, he would see more than 43% of the defensive snaps... A one trick pony, and a one year wonder... RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-08-2020 Lawson needs to stay healthy before even mentioning him in the same sentence as Mixon. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nicomo Cosca - 06-08-2020 (06-08-2020, 10:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Lawson needs to stay healthy before even mentioning him in the same sentence as Mixon. Mixon is easily a top 10 RB. Lawson is not even close to being one of the 10 best pass rushers in the league. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - J24 - 06-09-2020 (06-08-2020, 08:10 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Were he that valuable, he would see more than 43% of the defensive snaps...Yes Lawson has been hurt but when he plays he is our best pass rusher. And before you mention sacks it's been well established that sacks are not the only way to judge Pass Rushers. For example Lawson lead the team in QB hits. In fact he had more QB hits in the last 4 games then Hubbard had all season. Dude is going to have a huge season this year! (06-08-2020, 08:35 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Care to elaborate? RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - J24 - 06-09-2020 (06-08-2020, 10:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Mixon is easily a top 10 RB. Lawson is not even close to being one of the 10 best pass rushers in the league. Mixon is a RB who can be replaced with a cheaper option in the draft. Even if Lawson isn't a top 10 pass rusher he is not that far away from top 10( when Healthy he is the defenses version of Eifert). A top 20 pass rusher is a lot harder to replace than an elite RB. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nicomo Cosca - 06-09-2020 (06-09-2020, 02:22 AM)J24 Wrote: Mixon is a RB who can be replaced with a cheaper option in the draft. Even if Lawson isn't a top 10 pass rusher he is not that far away from top 10( when Healthy he is the defenses version of Eifert). A top 20 pass rusher is a lot harder to replace than an elite RB. Mixon is not easily replaceable though. Plenty of RB’s would look like absolute dog shit behind the OL we trotted out the last couple years. I like Lawson, but I think you’re slightly overrating him here. I think it would be easier to find another pass rusher in the draft that could put up similar numbers to Lawson, than it would be to find another RB that the greatest coach of all time says is probably the best RB in the league. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - HarleyDog - 06-09-2020 (06-09-2020, 02:43 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Plenty of RB’s would look like absolute dog shit Get off my lawn. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-09-2020 (06-09-2020, 02:18 AM)J24 Wrote: Yes Lawson has been hurt but when he plays he is our best pass rusher. And before you mention sacks it's been well established that sacks are not the only way to judge Pass Rushers. For example Lawson lead the team in QB hits. In fact he had more QB hits in the last 4 games then Hubbard had all season. Dude is going to have a huge season this year! That is one of the most ridiculous notions I've ever read on these boards. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-09-2020 (06-09-2020, 07:09 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Get off my lawn. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - bengalfan74 - 06-10-2020 (06-08-2020, 09:00 PM)jason Wrote: A one trick pony, and a one year wonder... (06-08-2020, 10:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Lawson needs to stay healthy before even mentioning him in the same sentence as Mixon. Lawson has a lot to prove before he's mentioned among the best. Sure I'd love to see him tear it up this season but I'm not banking on it. RE: WJIII hoping to sign long-term deal with Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-10-2020 (06-10-2020, 10:26 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Lawson has a lot to prove before he's mentioned among the best. Sure I'd love to see him tear it up this season but I'm not banking on it. He is a damn fine pass rusher when healthy, he just rarely is healthy. He also can't cover and he hasn't shown the ability to stop the run consistently. As Jason said, he has been a one trick pony so far. |