(10-31-2020, 05:41 PM)jason Wrote: I feel it's a bit early to be worrying about draft position... That win would have done way more than drop us a pick or two... It would have been this coaching staff's first win against a team with a winning record. It also would've taught some of these guys what it takes to win a close game. Hanging our hats on close losses is stupid... Most losses are close. Even if the game is more of a blowout than it appears on the surface (Titans/ Steelers this past week comes to mind). Bad/ poorly prepared teams lose close games every week, while the good teams routinely find a way to win those games... Just like we did not too too long ago.

(10-31-2020, 07:11 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last year if you took every one score loss and counted it as a win for every single team in the NFL, there would only be 2 teams with a losing record. (DC and Miami, and even they would both be 7-9.)

(10-31-2020, 09:12 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I've never bought into the "losing close games" so we must be good narrative. 

(10-31-2020, 12:31 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: If you don't see it, that is on you.  And that is ridiculous...

(10-31-2020, 09:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Yep. Personally I think playing the contrarian just because is ridiculous. People from outside of this fan base have made that exact same “ridiculous” comment.

(10-31-2020, 09:20 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: I don't buy into the "we won that game so we must be good" narrative either, lol. We can definitely fluke win some games, even though that's all that matters. Some coach should have been fired after that last game's last drive, instead we got rid of Carlos. That distraction probably saved a coach's (read: a friend's) job.

(10-31-2020, 10:40 PM)samhain Wrote: I think that the team will end up winning 4 or 5 more games. The league is filled with bad teams, some even worse than us. We just so happen to play a bunch of those teams. Tanking for draft position is a losing proposition unless you're gunning for a qb like we were last year.

I think that the offense will look promising to very good by December. They already have their moments, and chemistry is still in process. If the defense can mange to make two or three stops in a few games, we're out of the top 10.

(10-31-2020, 10:47 PM)jason Wrote: Yeah... Playing the NFC east is our saving grace this year. We still couldn't manage to put Philly away though, so you still can't chalk any of those games up as wins either... Though I think whatever wins we get will come from those games. I think we go 0 fer the division with both Pittsburgh and Baltimore stomping us. I fear tomorrow's game will get ugly too, but I'd love to be wrong.

(10-31-2020, 10:54 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The Dolphins and Texans are both winnable games, too. Not saying I’d bet on it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we beat either or even both of them.

(10-31-2020, 10:54 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The Dolphins and Texans are both winnable games, too. Not saying I’d bet on it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we beat either or even both of them.

(10-31-2020, 11:05 PM)jason Wrote: Yeah... Those teams are kinda like Indy. You saw how we have the ability to jump on them, but we just couldn't finish.

(10-31-2020, 09:30 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: It just baffles me how the best thing to happen to the Bengals is looked at with such a jaundiced eye. I just don't get it ?

(11-01-2020, 10:57 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I keep saying over and over again that I like Burrow and that I think he has what it takes to be a really good NFL QB.

But anyone who is being honest would admit that he has not shown that he is capable of winning a Super Bowl unless you say that every rookie QB that has a decent game in a loss is a Super Bowl winning QB.  

If that is your standard then that is fine.  I just need to see more before I anoint a guy as "capable of winning a Super Bowl."

(10-31-2020, 07:11 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last year if you took every one score loss and counted it as a win for every single team in the NFL, there would only be 2 teams with a losing record. (DC and Miami, and even they would both be 7-9.)

(10-31-2020, 03:38 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: But has he? He's looked really really good at times, and not good at others. There hasn't really been a upward trend, but just a zigzag. (Which is to be expected by a Rookie.)

Week 1-3: 5 TD/1 INT, 89.0 QB Rating
Week 4-6: 1 TD/3 INT, 79.7 QB Rating

I think Burrow will be fine and turn out great, but the idea that he's improved every week just isn't based in reality.


Star is a bit generous for a part time role player who only made 16 total tackles in 482 defensive snaps (plus another 157 on ST). He was a good pass rushing specialist, but even PFF (if you put any stock into that, but I would understand if you didn't) graded him at 64.8 overall in 2017.

Even in 2018 before getting hurt he only had 1 sack and 6 total tackles in 7 games.

(10-31-2020, 09:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Yep. Personally I think playing the contrarian just because is ridiculous. People from outside of this fan base have made that exact same “ridiculous” comment.

(11-01-2020, 11:18 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Every rookie QB doesn’t set like 5 records in 7 games. That’s more than “decent.” What Burrow and Herbert are doing (especially in a messed up year like this one) is remarkable. Both have already shown they have what it takes to be elite QB’s (not just “very good”) in the near future.

Also, if you have to keep prefacing every post you make about Burrow with how much you like him then you clearly don’t.