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RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Weazzel80 - 12-14-2020
Seeing how we had DC's turning down the job and Lou was like our 9th (or whatever) option; I'd be okay with Guenther back.
Our players seemed to like him and we had the 2nd overall scoring defense. For us, it doesn't get better than that.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Bilbo Saggins - 12-14-2020
Eh. Maybe as a Zimmer lackey. Do the other 31 teams have these discussions? Do the Jets pine for the Rex Ryan assistants of yesteryear? It feels awfully desperate.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - sonofstat - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 05:30 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: Eh. Maybe as a Zimmer lackey. Do the other 31 teams have these discussions? To the Jets pine for the Rex Ryan assistants of yesteryear? It feels awfully desperate.
This.
I know the ZT era has been so traumatic that anything seems an upgrade but jeez..at this rate Hue Jackson will be getting a call again
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Bengalitis - 12-14-2020
WE bring in someone who's had top 10 defenses for more than 3 seasons. THanks. (like Marvin)
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - RunKijanaRun - 12-14-2020
Is this the part of the day in which we all tell really bad jokes?
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - BoomerFan - 12-14-2020
Maybe make him the LB coach again. And get us a new DC in addition.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - PhilHos - 12-14-2020
You know ZT is bad when people are longing for former, crappy coordinators to come back to the Bengals.
Oh, and BTW, the Bengals DID fire a DC during the season.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - ochocincos - 12-14-2020
Guenther was a good DC for the Bengals.
He was far better than both Austin and Anarumo.
I would welcome him back, but I'm sure there will be concern with bringing back any coach who was from the old regime.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - grampahol - 12-14-2020
One special name..Freddy Kitchens.. After all..The Browns fired Belechick too.. if any name ever fits the Brown family hiring practice over the years Kitchens is the perfect fit..
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - kalibengal - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 12:26 AM)Nately120 Wrote: They have a guy in the wings who has 7 years of experience as a coordinator, which means he has more experience at the level than what...all of our coaches combined? Could you imagine firing Lou and having Rod Marinelli stepping in? I feel like if we fired Lou today we'd have to promote one of the laundry guys to DC.
Dont forget Marinelli was a Head Coach as while back too (Lions or Dolphins?)
Over in Cincy its ;Hey whats your name by the water cooler! how does DC sound to you?
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Aquapod770 - 12-14-2020
No. Dear God please no. Raiders fans are rejoicing at this news.
He's a lateral move from Lou.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - 2MinutesHate - 12-14-2020
We need to keep in mind that nobody wanted the DC job last year. Coaching in Cincinnati can be career suicide unless you're Marvin Lewis.
Guenther may be the best we can get, especially if ZT gets to stay (which I believe he will). That's pretty damn sad, but I'd take him over Lou, starting this week.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - jj22 - 12-14-2020
We need fresh eyes (even tho fresh eye's didn't work we don't need to give up just yet and go back to the familiar faces).
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Tony - 12-14-2020
Hell No.. No more Bengals castoff returns. I'm seeing shit about Marvin returning. This is ridiculous..
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Tony - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 01:35 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: No. Dear God please no. Raiders fans are rejoicing at this news.
He's a lateral move from Lou.
My thoughts exactly. I remember him taking over Zims Defense and it not being very good. No thanks!
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - jason - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 12:39 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: I don't care what the stats say, my eyes saw a drop off, especially that first year.
That was the year Geno wasn't right, MJ ended up in Tampa Bay, and Burfict missed a good chunk of the year with concussions and the knee though.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - fredtoast - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 12:04 AM)thompson19osu Wrote: I know I know...it’s the Bengals and they don’t do that.
Ken Zampese and Teryl Austin say "Hi".
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - fredtoast - 12-14-2020
(12-14-2020, 12:39 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: I don't care what the stats say, my eyes saw a drop off, especially that first year.
I don't care what my bank account says I am really a millionaire.
In Guenther's first season as Bengal DC our defense ranked 3rd in yards and 5th in points allowed. They never ranked that high under Zimmer.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - Bengalstripes9 - 12-14-2020
I’ve really said all I want to say. The only thing I’ll add for clarification is I think Zimmer is an elite defensive mind, while Guenther is slightly above average. I’d rather make a push for something better.
RE: Guenther fired by Raiders - Is he our next DC? - XenoMorph - 12-14-2020
(12-13-2020, 11:57 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Is he our DC next year?
I wasnt a big fan when he was here, but it got much worse when he left.
Look at the Raiders 7-6 and firing a DC! That would never happen here.
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>The Raiders have relieved Paul Guenther of his duties as defensive coordinator. Defensive line coach Rod Marinelli will serve as interim defensive coordinator for the remainder of the 2020 season.
— Las Vegas Raiders (@Raiders) December 14, 2020
No man... Zach is buddies with all the dudes we have none will be gone till he is.