(03-20-2021, 10:39 AM)kevin Wrote: TAKE SEWELL OFF THE BOARD

Mike Brown is NOT going to have 3 High Priced Tackles.  He just isn't

(03-20-2021, 10:53 AM)bfine32 Wrote: If we draft Sewell we'll have a total of 0 high paid tackles. 

(03-20-2021, 10:53 AM)bfine32 Wrote: If we draft Sewell we'll have a total of 0 high paid tackles. 

(03-20-2021, 11:57 AM)kevin Wrote: I agree we need depth behind Williams and Reiff.  But Pick 5 is not for bench depth, Not with so many holes to fill in starters on a last place team.  Williams and Reiff are The Starting Tackles.  This last place loser of a team needs pick 5 to be a Starter.  I was for Sewell, before they signed Reiff.  They will not take a Center or Guard at Pick 5.   It will be the SEC TE, The Big 10 LB or the 2 SEC WR's. 

The last place Bengals do NOT have the luxury to use Pick 5 on loading up on 3 Tackles when only 2 can start. Yes we need bench depth, but we need a Starter at Pick 5.  Williams and Reiff are the starting tackles.  I could see the TE or LB and they could Start.  There are 2 great SEC WR's here and either could Start with Green and Ross gone.  Boyd and Higgins by themselves will not be open, they will get covered and so will Mixon and Bengals offense will be too easy to Defense. But you bring in Chase or Smith, BAM, Bengals not easy to Defense. 

I was all for Sewell before they got Reiff to bookend with Williams.  Pick 5 needs to be a Starter.  Again, the TE, the LB or one of the 2 WR's.  I've already said that I want The Heisman SEC WR teamed up with SEC Heisman QB. 

I agree we need help at Guard and Center and Bench Depth across O Line, but on Pick 5, signing Reiff to bookend Williams, the TE, LB or WR's could come in here and Start for last place Bengals.  Pick 5 should be a Starter.  Pick 5 is NOT for Bench Depth. 

I was all for Sewell before they added Reiff to Williams. This last place team has other needs to fill now at Pick 5. I'm afraid if we do NOT get a top WR, the Bengals offense will be way too easy to Defense with Green and Ross gone. I'm tired of us not scoring any points, and therefore not winning any games. We are too easy to Defense, and why Mixon and others get over Defensed, Bengals Lack Weapons On Offense. It is not the X's and O's, it is the lack of talent, Bengals lack talent and need more Play Makers. The SEC Heisman WR is a Play Maker.

(03-18-2021, 02:36 PM)Synric Wrote: The thing about DeVonta Smith and Jalen Waddle is it would be criminal not to give them at least 50% of his reps from the slot and Tyler Boyd takes 70 to 80% of the slot reps in Cincy.

(03-21-2021, 05:05 AM)kevin Wrote: GOLLADAY TO GIANTS

Another reason to take one of these elite SEC WR's in Heisman Smith or Chase

It Bengals have only Mixon, Boyd and Higgins, that is too easy for Defenses, way too easy. Bengals will be lucky to win 4 games.

You add Smith or Chase to Boyd, Higgins, Mixon, now Defenses have problems, now Bengals can win games.

Adding Smith or Chase frees up Boyd, Higgins, Mixon have open lanes, and Burrow to have more weapons to use.

To those that want to have Williams, Reiff and Sewell when you can only start 2 tackles, that is a good way to stay in last place. I'm not going to keep watching this team in Last Place.

Nobody has been yelling for more Blocking than me the last 4 years. . I was for Sewell until they signed Reiff.  I agree we need more help at Center and Guard and Depth across the O Line.  Signing Reiff and Golladay to Giants opens up taking Smith or Chase at pick 5 to give Burrow more weapons. There is still the entire rest of the draft for other needs after we help Burrow, Mixon, Boyd, Higgins by grabbing an elite top WR to make Bengals harder to Defend. To those talking Sewell for 2022, Zac Taylor better be trying to win some Games in 2021 or he may not be here in 2022. Mixon, Boyd and Higgins is nothing, too easy to cover in NFL.  A high school offense of 1 RB and 2 WRs, the NFL will throw a blanket over them and take Burrows head off.  We need Smith or Chase to have more weapons to get plays open and move the ball and score in todays NFL.

Add in Chase and Smith are of the SEC, and in 2021, NFL teams should be looking SEC in the Draft more than ever. They did get playing time and reps in during 2020. Plus it is the most dominate Championships conference in college football. Going SEC at pick 5 is also a good move.  Here we have The Heisman winner out of SEC who kicked Ohio States butt all night, and we also have Burrows best WR target at LSU from that Championship.

Burrow will only succeed in an LSU or Saints type offense of many good WRs.  If all we have is Mixon, Boyd and Higgins, Burrow will be in the wrong system on the wrong team. The Bengals know this and why they tried to get Golladay.  Now they should take Smith or Chase who in many ways may have more of a future than Golladay who Giants landed.

I could see SEC Pitts also.   Smith, Chase or Pitts out of the SEC and high on the draft boards look too good to pass up.  Best Available Athletes. The draft far from over, we should get great talent at Pick 5 in rounds 2 and 3 and even 4 to fill other needs, of which we have many in last place, but I do see an attempt at rebuilding in Free Agency and Draft last 2 years. Many Free Agent moves on Defense last 2 years. Team is trying to climb up, The Offense is in dire need of another elite pass catcher for Burrow to hit. Burrow needs more weapons to go to, like when we drafted SEC Collinsworth for Ken Anderson to take us to Super Bowl.

Also, I like Mixon, Boyd and Higgins.  By themselves, they will be Defensed.  This is why Bengals tried to get Golladay and now should look SEC top elite players in Smith, Chase or Pitts.  Then you see, you get Mixon, Boyd and Higgins more open, the offense not as easy to Defend. Fans of 2005 know this. You have Chad and TJ, but then you add Henry and young Carson had weapons. Adding that 3rd elite WR is KEY.  AJ Green and Ross just haven't been giving us that last couple years.  Boyd, Higgins and one of these SEC Stars should.

(03-21-2021, 01:36 PM)IcoHolic Wrote: If we're going to draft someone that can catch a ball, Pitts is the pick.

(03-19-2021, 02:11 AM)kevin Wrote: No, if they shell out for Reiff to go with Williams at Tackle, they will not draft and pay top pick Sewell.  I could see a Linebacker at pick 5.   Not a Tight End.  I see Chase or DeVonta Smith, both SEC stars at WR and Smith won The Heisman and Dominates Ohio State in Championship Game. Only on Bengals site is his toughness in question, he was tough enough to Dominate in SEC and win Bilitnikoff Award and Heisman Award and Dominate Championship.  Again, I would love to have back to back Heisman winners out of SEC

If we get Reiff, they will not take and pay Sewell. It will be Reiff and Williams.  I could see a Linebacker, but I could see Chase or DeVonta Smith added to Boyd and Higgins and whoever is open, they can all GO ALL THE WAY.  I can see Ohio State Fans not liking Smith, he kicked our rear ends. He probably kicked Kentucky Wildcat rear ends also.  Smith is 6'1" and the most explosive play maker in the draft.  If needed, they can always bulk him up a little. He was tough enough to Dominate SEC and Buckeyes.

People on here talking slots on defense and offense like you know playbook.  Who says Boyd, Higgins and a DeVonta Smith would line-up in the same place each play. That would be high school football. The idea is to move them around and trick the defense and hit the open man like basketball. Take what the defense gives you, except Boyd, Higgins and a DeVonta Smith in the open could all GO ALL THE WAY.  No need to throw into double coverage as we did with Green. The strength to Burrow is he checks down and finds the open man very fast, spreads the ball around, and with defense on their heels, he goes into Hurry Up like boxer going for the knockout not giving defense time to regroup.

(03-21-2021, 10:17 AM)C0de_M0nkey Wrote: DeVonta Smith is almost 20 pounds lighter than John Ross despite being two inches taller. He doesn't have the frame to succeed at the NFL level.

(03-21-2021, 06:04 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: The Smith vs Chase debate is one that I struggle with. When I watch Smith, I see a star. He is an amazing route runner, he is insanely shifty and he seems really fast. But when I look at his measurables, they scare me.

When I watch Chase, I see a really good player who knows how high point the ball, but his routes are not as impressive as Smith's and he doesn't seem as agile. Then I look at his measurables and see he's only 6'0" and wonder if his best asset, his ability to high point the ball, will translate to the NFL.

I am impressed by both and wouldn't mind taking either at 5 but, if Smith were like 15 lbs heavier, I think he would be the undisputed #1 WR prospect in this class. Neither is a "perfect" prospect like Calvin Johnson or even AJ Green. They both have their warts and you kind of wonder if they were maybe a product of their system to some extent. Given that hesitance about their prospect quality, the idea of taking one at 5 is a little intimidating. I wonder where they'd rank in the class from 2020.

My gut is telling me that I would avoid both and just draft Sewell, but I'd feel pretty silly if one or the other becomes a star in the NFL where Sewell is simply "good."

It's a tough call. I kind of want Pitts because he is truly an elite prospect at his position. He is the Calvin Johnson level prospect of TEs. Seems like a more foolproof way of spending our top 5 pick, if given the chance.

(03-21-2021, 10:58 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I agree with this evaluation for the most part. I just like some of the catches that Chase has made in traffic and on the edge.

Plus he is a tough sumbitch with his build so I am not scared of him getting broken as much as the 170 something pound Smith.

Pitts is definitely my vote after Sewell, he could be a great WR, not just a great TE...

(03-21-2021, 11:14 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Yup

I wouldn't jump off a cliff if we drafted Smith but I must say I'd take Chase if I had to pick one of the two.

(03-21-2021, 11:40 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Kinda like Waddle over Smith tbh. Film shown me him getting wide open deep all the time but the ball really never went to him.

I bet Waddle would be the better player for the bengals and he has almost 10lbs. on Smith.