(04-26-2021, 10:02 AM)JaggedJimmyJay Wrote: Over the course of the season the Bucs' line performed around average, at least in terms of how long Brady had to throw per dropback. And average is certainly better than what the Bengals of 2020 put out there. I believe that the game has changed enough in the present that an average offensive line paired with elite weapons is more likely to generate a Super Bowl victory than an average array of weapons with an elite offensive line. It still feels bizarre to type that, because I'd have never made this argument in the not-so-distant past -- but the game is frankly nonsense now.

I would be fine with Sewell or Chase too. They both address positions of need and, I believe, are great prospects. I think the argument is generally hot air inspired by outdated conventional wisdom.

(04-26-2021, 08:11 AM)Au165 Wrote: Oh, look another WR vs OL thread. Friday is going to be interesting because it feels like half the fan base is going to be melting down.

(04-26-2021, 02:23 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Yup.. probably the right time to take a little break from the boards. 

Unless they trade down or take someone random, at least then the board would be united again.

(04-26-2021, 02:24 PM)Au165 Wrote: In a weird way if they screwed it up it would actually bring the board harmony. 

(04-26-2021, 04:22 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: Here's the deal: the NFL is re-drafting all of its players as if all 32 teams were expansion teams.  Each team is presented with whacky options with which to fill out their rosters.  The Bengals are up first.  With a gun to your head, which option do you choose as the first five players to be on your roster?  

Option A: David Bakhtiari, Quinton Nelson, Corey Linsley, Zack Martin, Tristan Wirfs

Option B: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill  

(04-26-2021, 10:16 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I do think you have a good point. I don’t agree that the argument is hot air, but finding a middle ground certainly has its merits. TB actually had one of the fastest time to throws in the league at 2.57 seconds, quicker than Burrow. He was pushing the ball further down the field than Burrow, and was actually #3 in the league for air yards on all attempts (Burrow #12).

Do I believe that TB had a line that forced TB to get rid of the ball that quickly? No, of course not. Do I believe that Tampa had good enough receivers to get open so quickly? Yes, I do.

I think that Tampa has the golden goose; strong OL and strong WRs. However, you have a good point in that having strong WRs over a strong OL can still produce results. Picking strong WRs doesn’t mean shit OL. You can have strong WRs and an average OL.

I agree with what you’re saying.

(04-26-2021, 09:35 AM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: Lol u poor thing.  Look at the last super bowl.  U had the chiefs with all the weapons in the world and then u had the bucs who had a boat load of weapons as well.....who won the game? and most importantly why? The bucs won because they were able to keep Brady clean however on the flip side despite all those cute flashy weapons the chiefs were dominated up front to the point where the chiefs this offseason had to totally revamp their oline.  And they did cuz they have their franchise qb and rule number 1 kids is to protect him.  It’s oline all day.  Now the bengals are gonna take chase cuz their idiots most likely but hey maybe they’ve smartened up...doubtful.

(04-26-2021, 10:07 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: This is partly because the Chiefs lost their tackle in the NFC Championship and the other sat out for Covid reasons. If you checked their Off line when healthy you will find they did a pretty good job for the last 3 years.. They also only had 1 Number one draft pick on that line.

(04-26-2021, 04:22 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: Here's the deal: the NFL is re-drafting all of its players as if all 32 teams were expansion teams.  Each team is presented with whacky options with which to fill out their rosters.  The Bengals are up first.  With a gun to your head, which option do you choose as the first five players to be on your roster?  

Option A: David Bakhtiari, Quinton Nelson, Corey Linsley, Zack Martin, Tristan Wirfs

Option B: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill