(05-25-2021, 10:20 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Right. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's wheaties, and most publications do seem to like our draft. Just think it's worth mentioning. Cris was strongly on the Chase side.

(05-25-2021, 04:49 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You have to love Evans being ranked that high, especially since we got him in the sixth round 

(05-26-2021, 02:11 AM)sandwedge Wrote: What defensive strategy would you deploy?

(05-26-2021, 11:12 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I would have preferred an O-lineman with our first pick but I still think Chase was the best WR in the draft.

(05-26-2021, 02:11 AM)sandwedge Wrote: What defensive strategy would you deploy?

(05-26-2021, 09:54 AM)Dr.Z Wrote: I’m not by any means a Lou A backer, but I don’t know if any strategy could look successful with the personnel he’s worked with.  As Mike Tyson said “everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”    

Definitely agree with the sentiments regarding injury.   Losing Reader was like taking a sledgehammer and knocking out a giant hole from a super leaky dam.

(05-26-2021, 01:15 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Pay me his salary and I'll let you know.


He's being paid to make the most of his players and thus far has failed to do so.

(05-26-2021, 01:48 PM)Dr.Z Wrote: How do you know that what you saw wasn’t  “the most” of his players?  Again, I’m not an Anarumo fan or anything, and if I had to assume one way or the other, I’d say there’s a good chance he’s not an above average defensive coordinator.  I also understand - excuses or not - if you don’t show results , you get canned.   All I am saying , is that “adjustments” can only get you so far.  How much better do you think last year’s defense could have been with adjustments for that personnel ?

(05-26-2021, 01:51 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Because I've seen those same players play at a higher level than they ever did under Lou and ZT.

You don't get to use injuries and age as a crutch when every other team has injuries and aging players, so don't bother coming at me with that. The simple fact of the matter is the defensive unit, as a whole, has been just this side of straight garbage since Lou got to town.

(05-26-2021, 01:51 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Because I've seen those same players play at a higher level than they ever did under Lou and ZT.

You don't get to use injuries and age as a crutch when every other team has injuries and aging players, so don't bother coming at me with that. The simple fact of the matter is the defensive unit, as a whole, has been just this side of straight garbage since Lou got to town.

(05-26-2021, 02:04 PM)Dr.Z Wrote: I feel this could turn into a "me defending Lou Anarumo" back and forth game, and I really don't feel like he is deserving of that much attention at this point, so I "won't bother coming at you with that."     For anyone that only sees this post, please don't confuse me as being an advocate of Anarumo lol.   I simply was pointing out how bad the personnel was last season. 

(05-26-2021, 03:11 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: I'm not trying to accuse you of defending Lou and I apologize if I come off that way. I'm simply airing out grievances with his coaching method (or as I see it - lack thereof).

(05-26-2021, 09:10 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I love the fact that Chase didn't play last year and be worn out coming in to his rookie season.  All the games, post-season games, then combine prep and right in to OTAs....it seemed to wear out a lot of guys.  I don't know if Higgins was ever 100% healthy with his hamstring issue (that is kind of exciting to think given what he accomplished).  

I understand what you are saying about Jackson being made for the guard position, but there is still a chance he ends up being the RT of the future.  Very excited about him and how the right side of the line will look this year.  I, for one, kind of enjoy the continual questioning of the "lack of emphasis on the offensive line" narrative as it has to piss off the likes of Carman, Spain, Reiff, etc.  You could kind of sense the annoyance when Burrow was asked if the moves in the offseason can "keep him upright".

I don't have one single thing I love most about this draft, but two major components are getting the amazing weapon in Chase and the slide in Rd 2, where they STILL got Carman and added the likes of Shelvin and Smith at critical depth positions.  It also allowed them to get the top kicker in the draft perhaps a little earlier because they had already addressed so many needs by the 5th round.  

Time will tell on Smith if he can put the weight on and keep it on.  He probably won't be asked to do much this season barring injuries, but he could be a very valuable long term piece.  Shelvin and McPherson will contribute significantly this year. 

(05-26-2021, 03:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Great point on Chase taking off the year. You have mentioned it before that rookies have it rough going right from college to
the Combine, to OTA's to Training Camp to the regular season and adjusting. Chase is as fresh as he can be right now. Carman
can definitely play RT or LT in a pinch for us which is why he is so valuable, just don't match him up against speed.

Hope the O-lineman we brought in are taking it personal and want to prove this is not a problem anymore.

The trade back was key to this Draft. Like you said, got us Shelvin and D'ante along with the ability to draft McPherson.

(05-26-2021, 01:00 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: One where we don't allow 404 rush yards to the Ravens?

Kinda unfair to put 100% of the blame on players for that.


I mean, duh.

(05-26-2021, 01:15 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Pay me his salary and I'll let you know.


Part of the game is adjusting to getting hit in the mouth and play the game with the cards you're dealt. He's being paid to make the most of his players and thus far has failed to do so.

(05-26-2021, 04:37 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You also have to factor in that most rookie receivers don't already have a built-in chemistry from college with their quarterback from college like Burrow and Chase do.

That, plus everything that you mentioned has me excited!

(05-26-2021, 10:14 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Kind of what I thought.......

(05-26-2021, 10:13 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Who blamed the players 100%? It's hard to win and play up to par, when you are just finding bodies walking the street 1 Sunday and starting in a NFL game the following Sunday. 

(05-26-2021, 10:32 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Oh my bad for shitting all over your boy who has put forth some of the worst defensive game plans I've ever had the displeasure of watching.

I don't need to come up with anything because I'm not being paid 7 digits annually to do so.

But stay on that train - I'm sure he'll turn it around, what with his long storied history of successful defenses.