(10-13-2021, 09:02 PM)J24 Wrote: He actually has been recognized as the best run defender in the NFL according to PFF. I agree I would like more pass rush from that position but he is better than okay at run stopping.

(10-13-2021, 09:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The guy who leads EDs in tackles and stops is "okay"? You don't like your ends tackling ball carriers?

(10-13-2021, 09:35 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: He's the top tackler, has the most stops and is tied for 35th in pressures. 

So he's great against the run and average rushing the passer. 

And that's a bad thing?

(10-14-2021, 07:59 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Just ignore the Hubbard haters.  Trolls like to target the OSU players because they think they will get more people stirred up.

(10-14-2021, 08:07 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And here I was thinking someone's wife must scream Hubbard's name during sex or something.....   So much unwarranted hate towards the guy from a couple of people.

(10-13-2021, 09:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The guy who leads EDs in tackles and stops is "okay"? You don't like your ends tackling ball carriers?

(10-13-2021, 02:09 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: When he is back, who gets the axe? Sadly I wonder if it isn't Hodge to the P.S.

(10-14-2021, 12:22 PM)impactplaya Wrote: If Sam can finish off the QB then it is,only
A plus for this defense going foward
If he cant then its only hurts this defense

(10-14-2021, 12:22 PM)impactplaya Wrote: A non factor when it's time to make the QB
Uncomfortable and the game is on the line.

(10-14-2021, 12:22 PM)impactplaya Wrote: This is a league dominated by passing. The numbers 
Back that up. Your highest paid DEs in the NFL 
Are paid on their ability to create havoc on the other teams QB
Why you think the Bengals paid Trey Hendrickson
So much money in FA?
For for his ability to stop the run?
Why is Myles Garrett paid so much....? 

I dont hate Sam Hubbard. But a DE that is better
Run stopper than pass rusher then becomes
A non factor when it's time to make the QB
Uncomfortable and the game is on the line.
Hubbard sack production has really took a dip
Since his rookie year.
Why is,that?

The DEs that are highly coveted out of college
They are known for disruption of the comfort
Level of the QB. Not for their run stoppage.

If Sam can finish off the QB then it is,only
A plus for this defense going foward
If he cant then its only hurts this defense

(10-14-2021, 01:41 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Wait, now I'm confused. I thought the mantra was you cannot win in the AFCN unless you can run the ball. And so, if that's true, then doesn't it equate that to win in the AFCN you have to be able to stop the run? And if you have to stop the run,  isn't having a great run stopping DE the best way to do this? And isn't doing things the best way you can do them the American way? Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not going to sit here and listen you you badmouth the United States of America!!!!

(10-14-2021, 01:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: He is tied for 35th in pressures.  

You can't call that a "non-factor". 

(10-14-2021, 02:59 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I think neutralizing the other teams passing game
Is more priority than stopping their run game in this era of the NFL.
How many run stuffing DTs go before pass rushing DTs in the draft. ?
Last week Hunt and Chubb ran for over 200 yd 
Vs the Chargers and still lost. 
Why?
Run games are important but not like it was 10 20 yrs ago.

(10-14-2021, 02:59 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I think neutralizing the other teams passing game
Is more priority than stopping their run game in this era of the NFL.
How many run stuffing DTs go before pass rushing DTs in the draft. ?
Last week Hunt and Chubb ran for over 200 yd 
Vs the Chargers and still lost. 
Why?
Run games are important but not like it was 10 20 yrs ago.